Crossfit and martial arts

12-23-2004, 04:10 PM

I'm ready to finally take the plunge and start doing the wod's. I'm just not sure how to incorporate it with my jiu-jitsu training.
I train j-j Mon., Wed. and Sat. and am wondering if I still do the wod for those days as well. I am usually spent after my training. I know there are quite a few others who train some form of martial arts as well as crossfit so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Scott Gilchrist
Ontario,Canada

Larry Lindenman · 12-23-2004, 05:54 PM

Scott, break in slowly but eventually you want to do the WOD as written, in addition to your sport skill training (SPP). Ideally you want at least 5 hours between training sessions. Overtraining is overrated, under-recovery is really the killer. Make sure your nutrition is correct and that your getting sleep (8 hrs), using contrast showers, the Stick, foam rollers, massage, and any other form of recovery you could think of.

Jeremy Jones · 12-27-2004, 04:27 PM

I just do the WOD when ever I can. Sometimes this means doing it right before or after a tough MA workout. Although this is something I have built up to over the months.

I would reccomend doing your best to do the WODs as perscribed when you can, and doing scaled back versions when you know you will be working out hard in class.

Jonathan Kessler · 12-28-2004, 05:25 PM

Scott, I don't know how old you are or your recovery ablilities. With a very full time job, at age 43, I don't like to do an intense WOD and BJJ on the same day - I just don't get enough sleep or eat enough to really recover well from that. Maybe when I've been doing CF for longer I will. I do know a number of guys who do both, WOD in the morning and BJJ at night. Say, that sounds like a song...
JK

Jeff Martin · 12-30-2004, 11:27 AM

I'm a little late coming to this discussion but here is my input. I brought CrossFit to Brand X to help our athletes get in better shape. The first few months just destroyed them. Now, some of the younger people (13-25) come in, do the workout of the day, then follow it up with kickboxing or Krav Maga workouts. I do think it has to do with individual recoverability. I find, even after a year I need a longer break between the WOD and any other training I do. Larry is correct, in my experience one doesn't breakdown due to overtraining but rather under recovery.

01-04-2005, 06:53 AM

Thanks for all the replies and advice. I only have access to the net at work and have been off for a couple of weeks so sorry for the delay.
I am going to try to do the WOD as prescribed and go as hard as I can and I'll just have to back off if I'm feeling tired out.
Just a little background info in case anyone else has any suggestions. I'm 30, fulltime job with overtime on weekends (industrial electrician), wife and 20 month old son. I started j-j 1 year ago to try and lose weight as I was quite heavy at 265lbs (5ft-9in). I now weigh 215 and really enjoy j-j. Now I want to get in better shape so I can maybe start competing in tournaments.
Thanks again
Scott Gilchrist
Ontario, Canada

Tom Shook · 01-04-2005, 12:36 PM

Hey Scott for what its worth, I am in a very similar situation to yours lifestyle wise. I know how tough it can be to try and develop a program that works. Just a thought: why not continue with JJ training and start to incorporate WOD during your non-JJ days? Eventually you could build up to greater frequency, but perhaps start a little slower. Rome wasn't built in a day. Good luck when you start competing!

Mikki Lee Martin · 01-13-2005, 06:37 PM

I like the its absolutely terribly hard to do aspect of following one with the other. I figure it will help me prepare for my next test, if I have to Practice/take a class while very tired. I have been combining the two one right after the other for about 3-4 months and i definately see a difference in my endurance. Could just be the CrossFit alone...

12-23-2004, 04:10 PM	#1
scott gilchrist **** Profile:** Posts: n/a	I'm ready to finally take the plunge and start doing the wod's. I'm just not sure how to incorporate it with my jiu-jitsu training. I train j-j Mon., Wed. and Sat. and am wondering if I still do the wod for those days as well. I am usually spent after my training. I know there are quite a few others who train some form of martial arts as well as crossfit so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Scott Gilchrist Ontario,Canada
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01-04-2005, 06:53 AM	#6
scott gilchrist **** Profile:** Posts: n/a	Thanks for all the replies and advice. I only have access to the net at work and have been off for a couple of weeks so sorry for the delay. I am going to try to do the WOD as prescribed and go as hard as I can and I'll just have to back off if I'm feeling tired out. Just a little background info in case anyone else has any suggestions. I'm 30, fulltime job with overtime on weekends (industrial electrician), wife and 20 month old son. I started j-j 1 year ago to try and lose weight as I was quite heavy at 265lbs (5ft-9in). I now weigh 215 and really enjoy j-j. Now I want to get in better shape so I can maybe start competing in tournaments. Thanks again Scott Gilchrist Ontario, Canada
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12-23-2004, 05:54 PM	#2
Larry Lindenman Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,769	Scott, break in slowly but eventually you want to do the WOD as written, in addition to your sport skill training (SPP). Ideally you want at least 5 hours between training sessions. Overtraining is overrated, under-recovery is really the killer. Make sure your nutrition is correct and that your getting sleep (8 hrs), using contrast showers, the Stick, foam rollers, massage, and any other form of recovery you could think of.

12-27-2004, 04:27 PM	#3
Jeremy Jones Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Concord Ca Posts: 1,218	I just do the WOD when ever I can. Sometimes this means doing it right before or after a tough MA workout. Although this is something I have built up to over the months. I would reccomend doing your best to do the WODs as perscribed when you can, and doing scaled back versions when you know you will be working out hard in class.

12-28-2004, 05:25 PM	#4
Jonathan Kessler Member Profile: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boulder Creek CA Posts: 251	Scott, I don't know how old you are or your recovery ablilities. With a very full time job, at age 43, I don't like to do an intense WOD and BJJ on the same day - I just don't get enough sleep or eat enough to really recover well from that. Maybe when I've been doing CF for longer I will. I do know a number of guys who do both, WOD in the morning and BJJ at night. Say, that sounds like a song... JK

12-30-2004, 11:27 AM	#5
Jeff Martin Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ramona Ca. Posts: 1,318	I'm a little late coming to this discussion but here is my input. I brought CrossFit to Brand X to help our athletes get in better shape. The first few months just destroyed them. Now, some of the younger people (13-25) come in, do the workout of the day, then follow it up with kickboxing or Krav Maga workouts. I do think it has to do with individual recoverability. I find, even after a year I need a longer break between the WOD and any other training I do. Larry is correct, in my experience one doesn't breakdown due to overtraining but rather under recovery.

01-04-2005, 12:36 PM	#7
Tom Shook Departed Profile: Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 54	Hey Scott for what its worth, I am in a very similar situation to yours lifestyle wise. I know how tough it can be to try and develop a program that works. Just a thought: why not continue with JJ training and start to incorporate WOD during your non-JJ days? Eventually you could build up to greater frequency, but perhaps start a little slower. Rome wasn't built in a day. Good luck when you start competing!

01-13-2005, 06:37 PM	#8
Mikki Lee Martin Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ramona Ca Posts: 122	I like the its absolutely terribly hard to do aspect of following one with the other. I figure it will help me prepare for my next test, if I have to Practice/take a class while very tired. I have been combining the two one right after the other for about 3-4 months and i definately see a difference in my endurance. Could just be the CrossFit alone...