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Old 07-27-2015, 01:18 PM   #1041
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Old 07-27-2015, 01:34 PM   #1042
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That one guy, who crushed the Tarot Card reading event was amazing!

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Old 07-28-2015, 05:44 AM   #1043
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Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread

Wanted to know. How do you guys feel about the fact that during the Sundays first event, judges re-evaluated scores; therefore putting Mat Fraser not 4 but 10 points behind Ben Smith? Note that athletes came into the Sundays first event knowing that Mat needed only to stay ahead of Ben Smith. Interesting that judges were not able to do this before the event or before the final day of the competition.

(My opinion is that Reebok did not want a Nike sponsored athlete to win a competition where they are the biggest sponsor.)

O, and the Team competition was also a fluke.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:01 AM   #1044
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Wanted to know. How do you guys feel about the fact that during the Sundays first event, judges re-evaluated scores; therefore putting Mat Fraser not 4 but 10 points behind Ben Smith? Note that athletes came into the Sundays first event knowing that Mat needed only to stay ahead of Ben Smith. Interesting that judges were not able to do this before the event or before the final day of the competition.

(My opinion is that Reebok did not want a Nike sponsored athlete to win a competition where they are the biggest sponsor.)

O, and the Team competition was also a fluke.
The points thing is unfortunate it did not get sorted out earlier, but the whole Reebok/Nike thing is silly to me. Fraser had a great chance to win still.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:22 AM   #1045
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Mat didn't lose it, because they changed the score of the sprint events. He lost the lead, because he was slow and sloppy during these events in the first place and DNF the PIG-chipper (that last rope climb....)
Ben only really screwed up the sandbag event and stayed much more consistent, even up to the final event. Mat got 1st on PTTM1 and about 17th on PTTM2, whereas Ben was right up the top five.

I'm a big Fraser fan and he improved dramatically over the cours of on year. To change a weakness into a strenght is no small feat! And he has still a lot of potentiall to grow. It's only his second year at the games and goddangit only his first real year, where he took it seriously!

BUT: Ben Smith has more than earned it - he stayed consistent during the whole games - no conspiracy needed!!!!
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:59 AM   #1046
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Wanted to know. How do you guys feel about the fact that during the Sundays first event, judges re-evaluated scores; therefore putting Mat Fraser not 4 but 10 points behind Ben Smith? Note that athletes came into the Sundays first event knowing that Mat needed only to stay ahead of Ben Smith. Interesting that judges were not able to do this before the event or before the final day of the competition.

(My opinion is that Reebok did not want a Nike sponsored athlete to win a competition where they are the biggest sponsor.)

O, and the Team competition was also a fluke.
Fraser had a 2pt lead after PPTM1. He beats Ben on PPTM2 and he wins the games.
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Old 07-28-2015, 07:30 AM   #1047
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The real comparison are their weaknesses

Matt = 12 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 2 - n - n - n - 4 - 1 - 2 - 2 - n (avg 3.33)
Weaknesses = Technique
- Sprinting, he has the power, its technique
- Adv Gymnastics, has the components, core stability, strength,
power, again its just technique


Ben = 7 - n - 10 - 2 - 1 - 11 - 6 - 1 - 2 - 6 - 7 - 4 - 4 (avg 5.08)
Weaknesses
- Sandbag was surprisingly low (Long work Capacity issue?)
- Didn't show the same consistency as Matt in general.


Avg position difference = 1.74 = 6.99 pts / event = Matt 90.87 pts ahead for the win over 13 events. IF WE IGNORE THE WEAKNESSES.

Matt weaknesses are skills and technique, Bens are a general lacking overall compared to Matt.

CF Games tests well roundness and recovery, most sports specialize, Matt certainly used too. Matts gonna stay at the top for a long time to come.

My moneys on Matt next year by a mile

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Old 07-28-2015, 08:03 AM   #1048
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@Sean - I'm not sure your analysis really means a whole lot.

"Matt 90.87 points ahead....IF WE IGNORE THE WEAKNESSES."

Well, isn't that the whole point? That each competitor has weaknesses? I mean, that's akin to saying, "We would've won, if only we hadn't let them score more than us."

The other glaring hole in your analysis is that you have removed more bad placements for Fraser than for Smith. You remove 4 event placings for Fraser to give him an average finish of 3.33 over 9 events (removing a 24th, 37th, 32nd, and 17th). However you only remove one of Smith's events (his 34th on the sandbag). What happens if you remove Smith's four lowest events? Then it looks like this:

Fraser: 12-2-2-3-2-n-n-n-4-1-2-2-n (average of 3.33)
Smith: 7-n-n-2-1-n-6-1-2-6-n-4-4 (average of 3.66)

Which for all intents and purposes is a tie. Or, we could actually include all of the events and you get:
Fraser: 12-2-2-3-2-24-37-32-4-1-2-2-17 (average of 10.76)
Smith: 7-34-10-2-1-11-6-1-2-6-7-4-4 (average of 7.31)

I mean, look you can skew the numbers all sorts of ways if you start manipulating the results. What happens if I only drop their single lowest placing?
Fraser: 12-2-2-3-2-24-n-32-4-1-2-2-17 (average of 8.58)
Smith: 7-n-10-2-1-11-6-1-2-6-7-4-4 (average of 5.08)

Your analysis is basically handpicked to have Fraser come out the winner. The whole point of the Games is to find out who has more wholes in their GPP. Generally that means minimizing the events you do poorly in and placing consistently high (basically the formula that Froning used). Smith had as many wins as Fraser. Smith had 3 more top-10 finished than Fraser, and won the overall points battle. So not sure your contention that "Ben's [weaknesses] are a general lacking overall compared to Matt."

Feel free to refute, but I think you have a hard time (this year) making the case that Fraser was the more well-rounded, more generally well-prepared athlete. Smith is the only person in the entire competition who finished out of the top-10 two times or less (on the men's or women's side)....that screams to me "general well-roundedness without any real weaknesses."
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Old 07-28-2015, 08:09 AM   #1049
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Anyone else think it's kinda crazy that Davidsdottir only won 1 event the whole Games? It happened to be the last event, which was fortuitous. So many good athletes on both sides, the competition will only get tighter and tighter.
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Old 07-28-2015, 08:36 AM   #1050
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Anyone else think it's kinda crazy that Davidsdottir only won 1 event the whole Games? It happened to be the last event, which was fortuitous. So many good athletes on both sides, the competition will only get tighter and tighter.
Same as Camille last year
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