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Old 07-19-2010, 04:05 PM   #61
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Re: 2010 games scoring - impossible to catch up?

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"We do your stuff almost as well as you, you can't do our stuff at all and we do stuff neither of us do way better than you can"

I think its worthwhile too.
Man I hate that quote.
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Old 07-19-2010, 05:11 PM   #62
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Re: 2010 games scoring - impossible to catch up?

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None of the top 5 pitcher$ in baseball are closers. Not even Mariano. Closers only play in games that are close. Home runs in the first inning are how you force your opponent's best player out of the game. They are also how you keep guys like Rivera out of the game.


Touchdowns in the 4th quarter of a blowout game are meaningless points, more so if the scrubs are playing. Touchdowns in the 1st quarter are never meaningless.
Therefore touchdowns in the 1st quarter are, on average, worth more.

Basketball even has an expression for the last points in a not-close game: Garbage Time.
But - what if touchdowns in the first quarter were worth 21, then in the 3rd quarter they were worth 14 and then in the 4th they were worth 7.

That is the proper analogy.
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Old 07-19-2010, 05:15 PM   #63
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Touchdowns in the 4th quarter of a blowout game are meaningless points, more so if the scrubs are playing. Touchdowns in the 1st quarter are never meaningless.
Therefore touchdowns in the 1st quarter are, on average, worth more.
...and, let's say they normalized the scoring ... the points scored at the end are "garbage points" if it's not close in the beginning. The current system would be equivalent to making touchdowns in the fourth quarter worth 3 points...

Edit: Seems like I should have read the rest of the thread. Andy beat me to it.

This really isn't an argument.
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Old 07-19-2010, 05:33 PM   #64
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Re: 2010 games scoring - impossible to catch up?

So some people have suggested that after cuts the points should reassigned based on their ranking in each event compared to the remaining athletes. I copied the results to a spreadsheet and reassigned the points based on the top 16 competitors only. 1st = 1 pt through to 16th = 16 pts.

In the mens division the results would have been:
1.) Graham Holmberg (40)
2.) Chris Spealler (48) + 1 rank
3.) Rich Froning Jr (50) - 1 rank
4.) Austin Malleolo (57) + 2 ranks
5.) Matt Chan (60) - 1 rank
6.) Ben Smith (62) + 2 ranks
7.) Mikko Salo (65) - 2 ranks
8.) Pat Burke (70) - 1 rank
9.) Tommy Hackenbruck (77)
10.) Peter Egyed (79)
11.) Moe Kelsey (90) + 3 ranks
12.) Brandon Phillips (100) - 1 rank
13.) Chad Mackay (101) - 1 rank
14.) Joey Warren (101)
15.) Jason Khalipa (101) + 1 rank
16.) Rob Orlando (103) - 1 rank

Some changes, but Graham would have still won!
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Old 07-19-2010, 05:39 PM   #65
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Re: 2010 games scoring - impossible to catch up?

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So some people have suggested that after cuts the points should reassigned based on their ranking in each event compared to the remaining athletes. I copied the results to a spreadsheet and reassigned the points based on the top 16 competitors only. 1st = 1 pt through to 16th = 16 pts.

In the mens division the results would have been:
1.) Graham Holmberg (40)
2.) Chris Spealler (48) + 1 rank
3.) Rich Froning Jr (50) - 1 rank
4.) Austin Malleolo (57) + 2 ranks
5.) Matt Chan (60) - 1 rank
6.) Ben Smith (62) + 2 ranks
7.) Mikko Salo (65) - 2 ranks
8.) Pat Burke (70) - 1 rank
9.) Tommy Hackenbruck (77)
10.) Peter Egyed (79)
11.) Moe Kelsey (90) + 3 ranks
12.) Brandon Phillips (100) - 1 rank
13.) Chad Mackay (101) - 1 rank
14.) Joey Warren (101)
15.) Jason Khalipa (101) + 1 rank
16.) Rob Orlando (103) - 1 rank

Some changes, but Graham would have still won!
I like this. It does change things. I wonder if knowing this going into the events post-cut would have changed the athletes mental approach to the next event? I understand that it doesn't change the ultimate winner - who kicked azz by the way - but it does change things.
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:00 PM   #66
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Re: 2010 games scoring - impossible to catch up?

I think that this was part of the reason that HQ had 3 sorta-similar WODs all back-to-back at the end. Instead of normalizing the scores, they just made the last event worth 3x as much, which basically made it like an early event. But, this kinda diminished the value of the Sandbag event and the RHSPU event.
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:56 PM   #67
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Re: 2010 games scoring - impossible to catch up?

Everyone seems to be focusing on big man vs. small man. Fair vs. unfair. Everything is rendered moot when you look over to the woman's side. Kris Clever is one of the smallest female competitors and one of the strongest at the same time. So does anyone want to dispute that she is in fact the fittest female?
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:44 PM   #68
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Man I hate that quote.
I agree, I hate everything that makes CFers sound like a bunch of pompous dbags
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Everyone seems to be focusing on big man vs. small man. Fair vs. unfair. Everything is rendered moot when you look over to the woman's side. Kris Clever is one of the smallest female competitors and one of the strongest at the same time. So does anyone want to dispute that she is in fact the fittest female?
she aint "small" lol
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:36 PM   #70
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she aint "small" lol
Only three females were her same height or shorter and weighed less. So yes, she was one of the smallest out there. Her lift numbers blows theirs out the water. Across all females that competed, she's top 5 in all the lifts they listed. So I stand by my earlier statement.
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