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Old 11-04-2011, 01:54 PM   #51
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Re: CrossFit: The Superior Sport? Controversial Argument.

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Which is what Glassman told me is coming closer and closer.

Well why didn't you say so!

And superior athlete = Brian Clay
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:38 PM   #52
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Devin, in order to even discuss the "Superior Athlete", what exactly is the criteria to determine Superior Athlete? Are we talking about just numbers, as in 40 times, strength numbers, etc, and/or are we also talking about skills? And think how hard it is to even determine that. You could have a guy that is the fastest, strongest, and most agile, yet can't dribble a basketball to save his life or swim. Then what? Use yourself as an example. You are obviously very athletic. How would you fare against Ronaldo in a game of soccer, Lebron in a game of basketball, in the ring against GSP? In the end, there are too many variables at play here and that is why it is an impossible debate/discussion.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:49 PM   #53
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Re: CrossFit: The Superior Sport? Controversial Argument.

There's a group of athlete's who can squat 700+, deadlift 600+, bench 600+, and run the 40 yard dash in under 40 seconds. That's about the top of the line if you ask me.
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:33 PM   #54
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Re: CrossFit: The Superior Sport? Controversial Argument.

It's not the sport that counts it's the athlete.
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:51 PM   #55
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Re: CrossFit: The Superior Sport? Controversial Argument.

How about they add an all out melee as one of the events in those fancy Spear suits? Maybe at the beginning.

Start with 100, 50 go to the next round if they last 3 minutes.
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:53 PM   #56
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Re: CrossFit: The Superior Sport? Controversial Argument.

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You have a lot to learn about what critical thinking and argumentation is.
And so do you if you think it is possible to "prove" an opinion.

The proposition that "Crossfit is the superior sport" is unprovably vague. What is Crossfit? What is a sport? What does it mean for a sport to be "superior?"

None of these terms is rigorously definable, and so it is impossible to construct a logically rigorous argument for or against the proposition.

The best you can hope to do is persuade other people to adopt your definitions and your opinion. Persuasion is a completely different skill from logical argument.

Helpful hint: insulting people does not usually encourage them to accept your point of view.

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Old 11-04-2011, 03:57 PM   #57
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Well said Katherine.
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Old 11-04-2011, 04:27 PM   #58
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Helpful hint: insulting people does not usually encourage them to accept your point of view.

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Funny, that's all you have done to me since the start.
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Re: CrossFit: The Superior Sport? Controversial Argument.

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Funny, that's all you have done to me since the start.
This is the definition of trolling, whether deliberate or not.
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Devin, in order to even discuss the "Superior Athlete", what exactly is the criteria to determine Superior Athlete? Are we talking about just numbers, as in 40 times, strength numbers, etc, and/or are we also talking about skills? And think how hard it is to even determine that. You could have a guy that is the fastest, strongest, and most agile, yet can't dribble a basketball to save his life or swim. Then what? Use yourself as an example. You are obviously very athletic. How would you fare against Ronaldo in a game of soccer, Lebron in a game of basketball, in the ring against GSP? In the end, there are too many variables at play here and that is why it is an impossible debate/discussion.
Awesome points!!! This is the best rebuttal I have seen so far. Couldn't this same argument then be applied to "fittest"? What skills, numbers, strength, etc.. If so, does it follow that its impossible to claim the fittest in the world, like the games are doing? If not, then maybe it is possible to claim superior/best all round athlete, and were missing something.
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