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Old 09-14-2009, 06:25 PM   #1
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Snatch standards?

I read Greg Glassman stating that a 15 rep at 225 lb clean and jerk for a 200 pound athlete is a great standard to shoot for. I am 160 lbs and have set 180 for 15 reps as a goal. Are there similar stanards for the snatch?
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:00 PM   #2
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Re: Snatch standards?

The first one is bodyweight for a single.
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:27 PM   #3
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Re: Snatch standards?

ya dude.....15 reps of even 185 is nothing to sneeze at. Although, we did have one Athlete at CFNE do heavy grace with 185lbs in 4:30

225...I can't imagine that at this point, and I'm not a weak dude.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:00 PM   #4
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Re: Snatch standards?

15 snatches in one set sounds rather impressive
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:06 PM   #5
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Re: Snatch standards?

Isabel in under 3 minutes is my goal.
and BW snatch.
and Snatch balance 225
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:00 PM   #6
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Re: Snatch standards?

impressive display of metcon (work capacity? modal domains? catch phrase goes here) to throw 60/85/100kg around but..

max mormont (105kg) attempted 15xc&j at 100kg and lost it at 8 or 9 reps, impressive as hell - find the video on mainsite. technique deteriorated (naturally) and i think he said grip killed him. that said, that standard doesn't really exist.

as jesse said: bw sn, ~1.25 bw c&j, build up from there.

a 259kg total gets you to nationals at 77kg, that's a better long term goal than 15xanything...
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:10 PM   #7
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Re: Snatch standards?

Check out the 2009 qualifying totals here:
http://weightlifting.teamusa.org/content/index/3579

The lowest total on there for a 94 kg (207 lbs) lifter, besides school age, is 215 kg for collegiate. That seems like a good goal to start with. It goes up to 373.18 kg for world championships. Given a 30 kg difference between the snatch and the clean and jerk, that would be a 92.5 kg snatch and a 122.5 kg C&J. That's right around those BW% totals above.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:35 PM   #8
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Re: Snatch standards?

Looking at North Standards...

15RM Clean @ 112.5% BW = same weight as 1RM @ Advanced + level BW
15RM Snatch @ 93.75%BW = same weight as 1RM @ Advanced + level BW

BTW, not necessarily a good way to look at it but...
15RM Clean @ 112.5%BW = 1RM 180%BW = MASSIVE!!! = Elite++ (Ripptoes Elite (CFN Elite+) for your size is 175%)
15RM Snatch @ 93.75%BE = 1RM 150%BW = MASSIVE!!! = Elite++

No expert, but I would go as far to say that I think very few if any can get to this and maintain a crossfit balanced skill set. I'd be interested to look at the CF Games finalists 1RMs and see what they where scoring. Surely you'd have to give up on any decent Cardio / MetCon / Stamina Balance to train this? I have seen others argue that a balanced athlete can really only hope to obtain CFN levels of Advanced+ to perhaps Elite, but no higher?

Interesting goal but realistic?...balanced?


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Old 09-16-2009, 07:46 PM   #9
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Re: Snatch standards?

I got the 225 number from one of the CF Journal articles. I am a newbie, so I am learning. I see now that a 180 clean and jerk for 15 is extremely advanced/world class. Also, as you may know, CF Seattle has a chart fully available on PDF on their website with standards for a wide variety of fitness pararameters. I printed that out. Thanks for the feedback.
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The thing is that 99% of people who can snatch their bodyweight+++ don't give a rip about their 15RM.

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