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Old 08-07-2013, 12:53 AM   #881
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Re: Gslp

It sounds like a mental block to me too. That 5+ set can feel pretty daunting at times. But, you'll get more out of trying than not trying. Just get under the bar each set, take it one rep at a time, and on the 5+ sets don't worry about comparing it to the previous session. When you go into higher reps, there can be a lot of factors influencing how many you are able to do successfully. Don't let competing with yourself get you down.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:55 AM   #882
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Re: Gslp

I think this thread on SV describes my situation very good:
http://strengthvillain.com/forum/vie...php?f=9&t=4359 (Thread is wfs, rest of the site less wfs)

I more and more come to the conclusion that it's a mental thing and that I have to come over that fast. How should I deal with a mental block?

I will make a video next time, too, so I am on the safe side.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:01 AM   #883
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It sounds like a mental block to me too. That 5+ set can feel pretty daunting at times. But, you'll get more out of trying than not trying. Just get under the bar each set, take it one rep at a time, and on the 5+ sets don't worry about comparing it to the previous session. When you go into higher reps, there can be a lot of factors influencing how many you are able to do successfully. Don't let competing with yourself get you down.
Thank you for your answer!
Yes, it's a weird feeling. I know that I am stronger than before, but this "have to squeeze out 10 reps in the last set again"-thinking is very daunting.

Also found this thread on SV: http://strengthvillain.com/forum/vie...php?f=9&t=2865 (thread wfs, site not really)

I think I know what to do

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Old 08-07-2013, 10:36 AM   #884
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I more and more come to the conclusion that it's a mental thing and that I have to come over that fast. How should I deal with a mental block?
Whatever works for you to get amped up. Loud music, a few deep breaths, tightening your belt, stomping around, whatever...the main thing is just to think about attacking the bar and telling yourself you're not racking it til you get at least 8 reps.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:29 AM   #885
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Whatever works for you to get amped up. Loud music, a few deep breaths, tightening your belt, stomping around, whatever...the main thing is just to think about attacking the bar and telling yourself you're not racking it til you get at least 8 reps.
Thank you, I will report how it went
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:42 AM   #886
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Stefan, I've struggled with similar issues. What hugely helped me is being more aggressive, some caffein before training, making sure I've eaten enough and also not too long ago (>4 hours) before training. Also training in the morning always lead to really unpredictable results.

Getting comfortable with failing was also a good idea. For me it felt like once I've crossed some threshold with weight on the bar, it went from "heavy but doable" to "holy ****! even the first rep feels really heavy". It just took a bit to get used to that difference and knowing that I could safely fail. It might feel like there is no way you can do another 2 or 3 reps, but then you are actually able to. I take videos frequently to make sure I push myself as hard as I can, but also don't screw up the form and injure myself long-term.

If it's higher reps you are shooting for, I also found it important to breath properly between every rep and don't rush it like crazy.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:59 AM   #887
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Working out from home is what helped it for me, ie not having to care what anyone else thinks I fail or am lifting heaps heavier / lighter than they can.

Also training in the afternoon helped as well. Training in the morning was unpredictable due to differences in sleep, differences in how pre-workout drink / snack sat in my stomach, differences in warming up etc. Whereas in the afternoon, everything feels the same each day.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:15 PM   #888
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That was exactly what I did today with my DL and Bench day. I was really aggressive and said to myself not to stop before there is no other possibility.
But then this happened:

Bench 5/5/8 -> 5/5/6 (the 6th rep was all out)
DL 5/5/9 -> 5/5/6 (tried a 7th, but my back only rounded and nothing more happened)

First I was really disappointed, but then I thought about how this could happen and talked to a few guys. One of them had the idea that one bar I train with could be lighter then the others.
For that I have to say that I train at home and at a weightlifting club. At home I have a power rack with bar and weights, which I bought secondhand a few years ago. The vendor sold it as a 20 kg bar and also at the shop where he bought the set was with a 20 kg bar, so I never doubted it.
Everytime the weight felt heavy and I had problems was at the weightlifting club. So right after the training I drove home and carried the bar to the scale. And there it was...
15 kg. f***** 15 kg

I sabotaged my own training over months and it didn't come to my mind to weigh this bar one time...

back to topic:
Should I go on now with the lighter weight or reset once because all the trouble?

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Old 08-08-2013, 12:34 PM   #889
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You haven't sabotaged anything...as long as you've been doing + sets you've been getting stronger, even if the bar didn't weigh exactly what you thought it did. Just pick back up with a weight you can get regularly for your 5+ sets and continue your progress.

Also, you should only be doing a single set of 5+ on deadlift once you're warmed up, so if you're doing 5/5/6 you're doing too many reps at a high weight.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:41 PM   #890
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Yes sure I trained with heavy weight, but I doubted myself a few times because of that mistake.

I only did 5+ on the DL I mistakenly wrote 5/5/5+
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