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Old 06-02-2011, 08:36 AM   #21
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Re: Goodbye, Food Pyramid... Hello, Food Pie!

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/06/02...html?hpt=hp_c1

The article has an interesting series of images showing the government's nutritional guidelines over the years. It's neat to see how it has changed.

www.choosemyplate.gov

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Old 06-02-2011, 10:41 AM   #22
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Re: Goodbye, Food Pyramid... Hello, Food Pie!

The visual will get across to kids, which is a good thing.

Problem will be that you could fill up that plate with sugary canned peaches, mashed potatoes, biscuit, and chicken fried steak and they'd probably think they're eating well. But at least I drank my skim milk...

I've worked with teachers, nutritionists, admins, and people that head up departments at the state level - my bet is that they are popping the bubbly. On the one hand they are desperate for solutions, but on the other they are (mostly) still stuck in their ways. Getting changes like this in take time and tons of effort. It's madness, really.
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:33 AM   #23
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Re: Goodbye, Food Pyramid... Hello, Food Pie!

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Problem will be that you could fill up that plate with sugary canned peaches, mashed potatoes, biscuit, and chicken fried steak and they'd probably think they're eating well. But at least I drank my skim milk...
Change that skim milk to iced tea and you came very close to describing my lunch for today. But it's all good... I also had a side salad
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:02 PM   #24
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/06/02...html?hpt=hp_c1

The article has an interesting series of images showing the government's nutritional guidelines over the years. It's neat to see how it has changed.

www.choosemyplate.gov

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I attached the food pie picture... also, does it remind anyone else of simon says?


Protein is a food group?

Can I just eat protein powder?
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:31 PM   #25
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Protein is a food group?

Can I just eat protein powder?
Somebody on the SS boards actually advocated that quality doesn't matter and that, as long as you hit the necessary macros, protein powder, shortening and liquid glucose is perfectly healthy.

I cried and exited the thread.
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:35 PM   #26
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Somebody on the SS boards actually advocated that quality doesn't matter and that, as long as you hit the necessary macros, protein powder, shortening and liquid glucose is perfectly healthy.

I cried and exited the thread.
Throw a good multi-vitamin on there and what's the problem?

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Old 06-02-2011, 12:41 PM   #27
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Absolutely not...they've been doing it for 50 years. By incorrectly telling people to avoid dietary saturated fat and cholesterol, the powers that be have created an entire population of people that are eating far too many grain based carbs, are hyperinsulinemic and insulin resistant.
i don't think the government has any effect at all on what people eat. people eat a ton of grain based carbs because they're delicious. the government can come out with any report they want about how pasta isn't good for you and it wouldn't do anything to thwart people eating ravioli or the obesity rates.
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i don't think the government has any effect at all on what people eat. people eat a ton of grain based carbs because they're delicious. the government can come out with any report they want about how pasta isn't good for you and it wouldn't do anything to thwart people eating ravioli or the obesity rates.
I tend to agree with you here.

Although there are some political/economic reasons why junk food is cheaper than healthy food, which the government has at least some control over.

Alluding to what Katherine mentioned.
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Its still a failed model imo.

First, whole milk is best. I suggest steering clear of all 'fat free/low fat' products. When the fat comes out, milk sugar goes in.

Then, the omission of healthy fats.

Seriously, anything Fedzilla recommends comes complete with hidden baggage.
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Its still a failed model imo.

First, whole milk is best. I suggest steering clear of all 'fat free/low fat' products. When the fat comes out, milk sugar goes in.

Then, the omission of healthy fats.

Seriously, anything Fedzilla recommends comes complete with hidden baggage.
Unfortunately in schools, where we should be setting habits early on, the argument of whole milk vs skim isn't even on the radar. They can't even get kids to drink "White" milk. Chocolate or Strawberry is preferred. Seriously - kids won't drink regular old milk because they have the choice of super-sugar-milk instead. Throw in soda and sports drinks - yeah.

The conversation is still light-years from being on target.

EDIT: When I say "we should be setting habits" I mean "we have an opportunity to set habits".
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