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Old 09-20-2006, 09:53 PM   #1
Michael McElroy
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I'm doing a report on why low carb diets are bad and can cause muscle loss does anyone know some good RELIABLE sources where i can find some good info on this. Thanks
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:54 AM   #2
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Actually, it seems to be the general consensus that when implemented properly, low-carb and moderate carb diets can be quite beneficial. Check out the thread on "The Metabolic Diet" which is right on this very same page. Also, here's a decent discussion that takes into account both sides:

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1138762

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Old 09-21-2006, 06:29 AM   #3
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As Jesse said, properly implemented they are very beneficial. That means plenty of fat and protein and carbs coming from vegetables and fruits. Perhaps after looking into this, you'll change your report topic.
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:02 AM   #4
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Michael,
Carbs were never the "enemy" of any properly-thought out diet that followed the history of human eating patterns.

It's the SOURCE of the "carbs" that is the problem--dairy, grains, refined sugars, fruit juices, and too much of the wrong types of fruit.

It's the type of foods one eats. The macronutrients are relatively trivial in terms of long-term health, unless one is eating too much fruit.
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:21 AM   #5
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low carb diets may not optimize full muscle glycogen...but not muscle loss alone. There are smart ways to do low carb to increase muscle, increase energy and still cycle in for full muscle glycogen stores. It's when people don't know what they are doing that it all goes wrong. It's not the diet...it's people's personal interpertation and they invent their own way of doing it. Like Scott said...you may want to change the topic of that paper cause it is a broad and inaccurate statement.
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:27 AM   #6
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michael - super good demonstration of the typical flaw of nutrition "science" these days - you started with a thesis and are now looking for evidence to support it. that process is backward. the evidence needs to determine the conclusion, not you. if you want to focus on the low-carb topic, dig up all the research you can first and then decide your position.
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:02 AM   #7
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Exactamundo Greg!

Also...The thing I've found with the internet is if you look for something the chances are you'll end up finding it. If you're not careful you could end up coming to wrong conclusions or making connections between things that aren't connected.


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Old 09-21-2006, 10:47 AM   #8
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Micheal, here is good link for you:

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/con...ract/90/9/5175

Also, I would look at Dr. Eades blog on the study here:

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/archives/2005/09/

Go to Sept. 9th.

I believe that Socrates agrees with Greg when he says, "The lover of inquiry must follow his beloved wherever it may lead."
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Old 09-21-2006, 11:19 AM   #9
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thesis antitheses syntheses
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:06 PM   #10
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Hegel?
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