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Old 04-25-2008, 06:13 PM   #11
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Re: 1 of 10 fitness parameters missing??

Any flexibility beyond what you need for normal daily activity or your sport is unnecessary and can actually be a negative.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:15 PM   #12
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Re: 1 of 10 fitness parameters missing??

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Any flexibility beyond what you need for normal daily activity or your sport is unnecessary and can actually be a negative.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:17 PM   #13
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I'm already kinda wondering if Balance gets the focus that it deserves among the other nine fitness domains.
Squats, overhead squats, lunges, pistols, t-pushups, handstands, levers, etc. There are a ton of movements that contain elements of balance. That being said, some sports may require more specific training.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:20 PM   #14
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Re: 1 of 10 fitness parameters missing??

Any exercise done standing will increase balance. Unilateral work will target that even more, and we've seen it in pistols and one-armed dumbbell snatches.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:22 PM   #15
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:26 PM   #16
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Re: 1 of 10 fitness parameters missing??

Mark, first, let me emphasize that I think everyone should have the flexibility required to perform normal activities - squat, deadlift, lunge, pull ourselves up and over an object, press things overhead, etc.

Beyond that is dependent on the sport. As example, a dancer needs more flexibility than a powerlifter. If a powerlifter is too flexible, he reduces the stretch reflex gained from certain positions (ie, the bottom of the squat). This is the same reason why static stretching before a workout reduces power and endurance - it nullifies the stretch reflex.

Again, I'm not saying we should stop our flexibility work. BUT, we should recognize there's a difference between required flexibility and simple contortionism.
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:29 PM   #17
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Bad for strength.
Not really... More flexible muscles are actually stronger (combined with resistance training).

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Like Anthony said... muscle spindles are inhibited with high degrees of flexibility. Also, if to the point of over flexibility it can loosen ligaments and joint capsules around joints making them more unstable and prone to dislocation. Although you will rarely see this except with like rhythmic gymnasts, some ballet, contortion,etc.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:13 PM   #18
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I am not saying that we aren't flexible on attacking the methodology, before the die hards unleash on me- I was just thinking about this and wondered what everybody else feels.
I thought about it, but I dislike stretching so I didn't dwell on it too much.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:12 PM   #19
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Re: 1 of 10 fitness parameters missing??

CFers are on average much more flexible than the masses. However the great majority of CFers would benefit greatly by stretching more. Stretch at the end of your workouts. Just take 5-10 minutes and do it. I've worked with a ton of crossfitters that could lift more faster if their positions were improved, but they are unable to improve the position because of deficiencies in flexibility. It's not that it's under-emphasized, just that it's not written out in the WODs. It is your responsibility to stretch as needed. Increasing ROM will allow you to perform many movements far easier. It will also allow you to perform some movements that simply are not possible without the flexibility. You want a nice solid L-sit, get your hamstrings flexible. Stretch daily.

Ok, I'm off my stretching soapbox...
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:35 PM   #20
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Re: 1 of 10 fitness parameters missing??

Mark, I'm not sure if it's still in the curricula but the gymnastics cert by Rog and Co. did go over basic beam walking and balance stuff.

Personally, IMO, any person, adult or child should be able to walk and hop as well as hold basic balance positions on a beam. A beam does not necessarily have to be used, as a simple line will do. Doing such drills when blind-folded should be included when they are ready.

Some movements, including squatting and OHS do teach balance in the meanwhile just like box jumping, anything parkour ( which is right there with gymnastics ). Training with those agility ladders is another one.

Virtually any BW movements involve balancing. Simple lunge walks accompanied by an overhead weight or stuff like grapevines or the other typical football agility drills. Rolls and animal walks are simple ways to involve balancing in CF with no equipment.
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