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Old 03-31-2013, 08:50 PM   #51
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Re: A Tale of Two Meals... what's really making you fat.

Interestingly enough, a guy I knew through online message boards that deadlifted 550# at 75 years of age said carbs were equally as important as protein when it came to him maintaining those kind of deadlift numbers.

Which might seem a bit strange to some people because as we all know, your muscle mass breaks down as you get older, and one might think you need all the protein you can get to maintain deadlift numbers like that.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:04 PM   #52
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Re: A Tale of Two Meals... what's really making you fat.

That is because there is a limit to how much protein you really need.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:11 AM   #53
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Re: A Tale of Two Meals... what's really making you fat.

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Quite a narrow-minded view, afterall, look what Thomas Edison accomplished...all without a formal education. Have you actually read Sisson's background and how long he has been at his little "experiment"?
I'm familliar with Sisson's work and I'm not impressed.
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That is because there is a limit to how much protein you really need.
I think most people would agree with 1g per lb of body weight, no?

That is what I aim for. Not HARD to achieve, but it takes daily dedication.
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I think most people would agree with 1g per lb of body weight, no?

That is what I aim for. Not HARD to achieve, but it takes daily dedication.
Basically that is the upper limit of what is believed to be required. 1.6g/kg LBM
or about 0.8 g per lb of lean body mass. More can be consumed but there doesn't seem to be any evidence that shows more than that helps much.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:15 PM   #56
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Balance is definitely the key. Somebody in a couple of other threads was saying he thought CFers were scared of protein, I actually think it's the opposite. I think we as a group overvalue protein as compared to other macros.
I think Crossfitters are doing that, but overall...Crossfitters are freakin lost in the sauce.

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I have always thought that the reason people are fat is because they eat too many calories.

And the reason they eat too many calories is because they tend to eat too many carbs, and don't focus on eating balanced meals with HEALTHY carbs.
Adaptability and leptin sensitivity negates all of that. I can throw down all the carbs in the world and not get fat. Inuits can eat all the fat in the world and not get fat or develop heart disease. Tribes in Papua New Guinea do the same thing but eat 95% carbs and starches in their diet and they're SHREDDED BRO.

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Except that it's lazy and completely wrong. It gets to the point where people are afraid to eat fruit because they think they'll get fat.
Yea, people are lost. Just following prescriptions they hope will help them like the paleo prescription. I'm willing to bet easily 50% of the paleo people on this board are eating far too little carbs and fruit due to the "little starch, some fruit, no sugar" rule. Hell, "nuts and seeds" are toward the top of the list so everyone is downing nuts because they're easy and finger foods and require no cooking. Meanwhile they're taking in WAY too many n-6 fatty acids and their phytic acid levels are kelating way too much iron and calcium, more than they would if they actually ate grains.
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