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Old 04-23-2006, 02:53 PM   #1
Nick Gagnon
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I couldn't find anything on this, so sorry if this has been asked before.

Is using a trap-bar for deadlifts cheating? I can pull 400 using a trap bar, but only around 350 with a straight bar. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't cheating in the WODs.
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Old 04-23-2006, 03:08 PM   #2
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Cheating at what? You're still lifting 400lbs...

The trap bar is more of a squat lift than a deadlift. I perfer it to deadlifting as I feel it puts me in a safer position/motion.
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:01 PM   #3
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Heck, I'm looking forward to getting a trap bar!

Yes, the leverage is different. I can't imagine the metabolic stimulus is much different (or enough to even matter).

If you ever feel the WODs are "too easy" as rx'd with the trap bar, just add a little weight, no big deal at all...
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:17 PM   #4
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Kelly Moore uses a trap-bar, so therefore it's not cheating ;)

Varying the stimulus is never a bad thing. Never get stuck doing it just one way if you can help it!
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:35 PM   #5
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If "cheating" means reducing the chance of injury then I'm a cheater. We're not all built the same way. Is a 5' 5" inch lifter with short legs cheating because he's got a far easier time than I do with 6'3" and long legs? I figure I'm just evening it up a little. And I certainly don't want more orthopedic problems! Better to exercise into my 60s with a few "crutches" like trap bars than injure myself in my 40s.
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:15 PM   #6
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Thanks for the responses, I guess I'll try to build up my conventional deadlift so that it equals my trap-bar deadlift.
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:31 PM   #7
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I find I can pull considerably more weight for max triples, doubles and singles using a straight bar (standard or sumo stance) than I can using a trap bar, but when doing higher rep deadlifts the trap bar is a knee/shin saver.

Like pullups, practice all deadlift varieties (including heavy sandbag deadlifts - now those are killer!).
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:53 PM   #8
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A trap bar is no "crutch"!!
Take one look at a college weightroom and, likely, you will see a whole row of trap bars!!
In my opinion, it certainly is a superior movement for hip and thigh strength vs. a conventional deadlift.
Unfortunately, we still have guys at the gym that think the only thing its good for is shrugs.
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Old 04-24-2006, 02:58 AM   #9
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"In my opinion, it certainly is a superior movement for hip and thigh strength vs. a conventional deadlift. "

Whether or not this is true, you have to remember that there will likely be no situation where you'd be lucky enough to lift an object from INSIDE the object ;)

I know that every time I pick up a lawnmower by myself, I'm glad that I have trained straight-bar deadlifts!
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Old 04-24-2006, 04:26 AM   #10
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Not a lot of crossover to the O-lifts either. Like Kelly says, do em'all.
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