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Old 07-08-2009, 11:24 AM   #11
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Re: 2009 Games Coverage

first I was confused, but I thought about it and from a standpoint of improvement it makes a lot of sense.

No matter how fast you were, but if you get beaten by 15 other guys, you suck at it.

seriously, if 15 other people beat you, even by a second, than the average finish time should be nearly the time all other people finished.

but that's just all theoretical mumbo jumbo.

in reality, if you are excellent at 3 events, but totally suck at two, you get a bigger punishment than being second in all 5.

that's good! in fact, that's exactly what crossfit is about.

being good at everything - if you specialise, you lose.

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Old 07-08-2009, 11:30 AM   #12
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Re: 2009 Games Coverage

Sounds like... unless they find Josh Everett's GOAT, he's going to do pretty well this year.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:37 AM   #13
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Re: 2009 Games Coverage

I don't know Sean. I think this one is shaping up to be a sufferfest and Everett might not be able to use his power all day long. I like him a lot but based on the comments from Castro and the way they are thinning the field, it looks like they will be pushing that outer limit of the power curve.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:41 AM   #14
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Re: 2009 Games Coverage

To get back on topic a bit... CrossFit radio will be broadcasting live from the event and can be heard for complete coverage of the games! Sweet.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:47 AM   #15
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No matter how fast you were, but if you get beaten by 15 other guys, you suck at it.
Yes, but the point is not that the guy shouldn't get 16 (he was beaten by 15 people, so under our scoring he should get 16th place). The point really is that there are 70 fantastic athletes, who on the short metcons will be very close to each other, and since (from what I see) we are not going to have the times measured in ms (I wouldn't trust a human judge to get the milliseconds right), ties are much more likely to occur. At the Olympics, they have these photo-finishes, so they can order the athletes based on very small differences. Here, the 16th place person clearly gets screwed over, while the 15th would not.

Clearly this is an exaggeration, we'll never have 15 people tying, but I think the race will be close, and small things could make a difference. Whatever, I'll stop arguing this technical nonsense...Though it would be cool if they videotaped every person, and gave their time in ms, analyzed range of motion, and streamed it on the internet with live commentary
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Re: 2009 Games Coverage

Sorry Stu this is off the OP. Do you think Madden will come out for us. "Boom, chest to bar. You gotta have it!"

Dimitri, you have a point with the human error. I think timing is less of an issue than integrity of movement. This is where the most room for error is. When WODs include around 100 reps of movement it would be easy to have variance. The more we have these events the better they will get.
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:21 PM   #17
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I think they should name the games as follows:::

2009 Crossfit Games: Rhabdo Olympics
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:08 PM   #18
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I'd like them to do something that doesn't require tall guys to do a longer range of motion with the same or more weight. So, ropes instead of pull-ups, etc.
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Sorry Stu this is off the OP. Do you think Madden will come out for us. "Boom, chest to bar. You gotta have it!"
HAHA, priceless!! lol
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Yes, but the point is not that the guy shouldn't get 16 (he was beaten by 15 people, so under our scoring he should get 16th place). The point really is that there are 70 fantastic athletes, who on the short metcons will be very close to each other, and since (from what I see) we are not going to have the times measured in ms (I wouldn't trust a human judge to get the milliseconds right), ties are much more likely to occur. At the Olympics, they have these photo-finishes, so they can order the athletes based on very small differences. Here, the 16th place person clearly gets screwed over, while the 15th would not.

Clearly this is an exaggeration, we'll never have 15 people tying, but I think the race will be close, and small things could make a difference. Whatever, I'll stop arguing this technical nonsense...Though it would be cool if they videotaped every person, and gave their time in ms, analyzed range of motion, and streamed it on the internet with live commentary
I totally agree...when I compete in strongman we split the points. So if say the #1,#2,and #3 people all finish the same, then 1+2+3 = 6 divided by 3 people works out that everyone gets 2 pts. Or if 2 and 3 finish the same, 2+3=5 divided by 2 athletes = each athlete gets 2.5 pts. Its the proper way of doing this that evens it out.

If #2 and #3 tie, then #2 should not get full points as they didn't truely finish in second and #3 should get full third place pts and they didn't finish completed in third. They should split 2nd and 3rd and so should the points be split!!
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