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Old 10-05-2009, 06:26 PM   #11
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

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the hips are slightly lower in the clean, but not much.

the hips always come up right before the lift making the deadlift and clean almost equal in hip possition
um, no they shouldn't
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:41 PM   #12
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

Hip position is different depending on the people for the clean, but they are not the same as a deadlift. In general, hips on the clean will always be lower in order to set yourself up for the second pull. I do not think I have seen any lifter with their hips high in a clean, or at least make a successful heavy clean.

Look at these two vids (WFS):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn73_fb_eOs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5groVHlMkRE

The one of MAtthias Steiner, pause at 9 seconds, andthe one of Bolton pause at 30 seconds. Both have just pulled the weight off the floor, and their hips are not equal.
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:27 PM   #13
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

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the hips are slightly lower in the clean, but not much.

the hips always come up right before the lift making the deadlift and clean almost equal in hip possition
You're not cleaning the bar correctly. Bad advice sucks.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:34 PM   #14
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

ok people my bad, that is exactly what it looks like here:
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You guys are the lifters apologies if im wrong
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:47 PM   #15
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

RezaZadeh, you're kidding me? He has far from impeccable form. Of all lifters out there he has to be using his arms the most, right next to Chemerkin, and maybe second to the late Paul Anderson.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:37 PM   #16
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

There are five basic hip movements that lifters will use before the start position when the bar actually cracks off the ground.

Hips all the way down, rise into the start position. (Zadeh's method, also Kakiasvilis)

Hips static at the start position. (Naim Suleymanoglu)

Hips high above start position, Dive Bomber into the start (Wes Barnett, Yoto Yotov)

Hips high then lowered into the start position (Dimas, Veronica Carpenter, me)

Oscillating hips into the start. (Boesvki, Zlaten Vanev)

Most coaches have only one version they prefer to see, however. This may change from coach to coach. The version that is 100% wrong is the one that puts the hips in the wrong position (too high, too low, moving at a different rate than the shoulders) when the bar cracks off the ground.
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

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There are five basic hip movements that lifters will use before the start position when the bar actually cracks off the ground.

Hips all the way down, rise into the start position. (Zadeh's method, also Kakiasvilis)

Hips static at the start position. (Naim Suleymanoglu)

Hips high above start position, Dive Bomber into the start (Wes Barnett, Yoto Yotov)

Hips high then lowered into the start position (Dimas, Veronica Carpenter, me)

Oscillating hips into the start. (Boesvki, Zlaten Vanev)

Most coaches have only one version they prefer to see, however. This may change from coach to coach. The version that is 100% wrong is the one that puts the hips in the wrong position (too high, too low, moving at a different rate than the shoulders) when the bar cracks off the ground.
I got mentioned along side Dimas?! OMG! OMG!

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Old 10-07-2009, 02:17 PM   #18
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

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The version that is 100% wrong is the one that puts the hips in the wrong position (too high, too low, moving at a different rate than the shoulders) when the bar cracks off the ground.
Bingo.

Also, Lincoln and Veronica you guys are a funny one-two pairing.
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

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Old 10-07-2009, 05:58 PM   #20
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Re: hip position on deadlift vs. power cleans

I'm pretty sure Rip teaches that the start of the PC is the same as the DL. At least that's what he says on page 179 of SS, 2nd Ed.
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