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Old 06-22-2012, 04:33 PM   #11
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Re: When to start using a weight belt?

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I have not used a belt, though for some reason I own one. I feel like I would have to change my form and would be cheating my kinetic chain in some way. I might give it a try for fun one of these days, tho, see how it goes.
Based on....?

A belt shouldn't require a change of form either.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:19 AM   #12
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Re: When to start using a weight belt?

just based on the force applied to the ground not going through my back in a natural way. It was not a scientific evaluation, tho I'm sure someone has done/could do one, just how I feel.

and the form thing was based on intuition on how I feel the extra bulk and stiffness around my midsection would impact my ability to fully hinge at the hip and bring my stomach to my quads, and something I read a while back by dr stu mcgill which I will find later.

and, I am more comfortable doing the opposite of what the guys in the smith machine tell me I should do when I am squatting twice as much as they are smith machining, haha.

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Old 06-23-2012, 12:47 PM   #13
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Re: When to start using a weight belt?

I use one on heavy 1-3 rep sets for squats and deads and nothing else. I don't really think they're necessary fr 5 rep sets but hey it's user preference....

And if you never use a belt for heavy compounds you are intentionally keeping yourself weaker. Once again, it's users choice, but I think a foolish one....Of course I'm heavily biased towards the powerlifts...
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:59 PM   #14
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And if you never use a belt for heavy compounds you are intentionally keeping yourself weaker. Once again, it's users choice, but I think a foolish one....Of course I'm heavily biased towards the powerlifts...
Im not sure Id agree or disagree in a black and white way with this. There is a spectrum of support all the way to multi-ply, and you can always argue you are keeping yourself weaker (as far as lbs on the bar) if you arent fully geared up. I think its, like you said, a users choice of their comfort zone. Jaime Lewis would be a great example of the success of the no-support-whatsoever approach that would be hard to dispute.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:46 PM   #15
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Re: When to start using a weight belt?

You cant really compare geared lifters to someone wearing a belt. A belt should not change your form and I think a lot of people do not know how to use a belt properly. It may seem simple but its not as easy as just latching it as tight as you can for every lift you use a belt on which is what I see a number of people do. There is no "set" time to use a belt and its personal preference but the lack of a belt will hold a person back, generally speakly, not always. I think belts should only be used by experienced lifters, who are 100% healthy/uninjured. Until someone has some time under the bar to strengthen their entire body and the area that the belt "helps" during a lift they will be using it a crutch which is what many people also do. So long story short, there is no real answer in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOu5d7ZvmmQ WFS This guys is an OK puller for not using a belt. His pull is the last lift.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:51 PM   #16
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Re: When to start using a weight belt?

+1 on comparing gear and belts. A belt is a stabilizing force.... Gear actually assist with the movement and even changes the way a lift is done (ie bench shirts)...
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:38 AM   #17
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Re: When to start using a weight belt?

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I'd say a belt is a useful tool anytime you're doing anything in the 5RM range or heavier. They're not necessary by any means, but a good belt will help you get stronger.

It'll take some getting used to...you'll have to try going looser, tighter, raising it a bit, lowering it, etc. to see what works. A nylon belt may not do much for you so I'd recommend looking for a good leather one. I'm partial to this one (WFS) for its quality and their customer service.
Eric,

I'm glad that site is back up. Do you have an opinion on their 3" belt? I'm undertall so I'm thinking that might be a better choice for me.
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Re: When to start using a weight belt?

I don't know anything about their 3" belt specifically, but if you can't wear a 4" belt comfortably then it's probably a good way to go.
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Re: When to start using a weight belt?

Thank you.
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Eric,

I'm glad that site is back up. Do you have an opinion on their 3" belt? I'm undertall so I'm thinking that might be a better choice for me.
I resemble that description, and I use a 4" wide 13mm Inzer belt.
You should be fine with a 4" belt.
In the beginning, you may get a bit of bruising under your ribs and above your hip bone, but after a week or two of regular use (2-3 days per week), you'll stop bruising.
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