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Old 03-04-2008, 06:07 PM   #1
John Seaburg
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Hypertrophy Ranking

Here's one of my favorite exercise questions adapted for CF. I know hypertrophy and bodybuilding have been discussed a lot lately but I don't think quite like this.....

If there were five identical male quintuplets, 28 years old, and everything about their lives were the same except....

One trained as a bodybuilder
One trained as a gymnast
One trained as an Olympic lifter
One trained as a powerlifter
One trained with Crossfit WODs

... who would have the most muscle mass? How would you rank them 1-5?

None of them have ever taken performance enhancing drugs.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:15 PM   #2
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Re: Hypertrophy Ranking

I am by no means an authority on this subject, but I'll go ahead and give it a shot:

1. Bodybuilder
2. Powerlifter
3. Olympic lifter
4. Crossfitter
5. Gymnast
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:18 PM   #3
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Re: Hypertrophy Ranking

This is a bit impossible, because it's not like they're apes. All of those with the possible exception of the CrossFitter will likely be INTENTIONALLY controlling their size, to fit into different weight classes or to optimize their performance. You're therefore going to see radically different bodyweights depending on their sport (powerlifter probably bigger than gymnast) but also just depending on which weight class they decided to fit themselves into. If you're going for "who would be ABLE to have the most mass, if they want to maximize it?" that's a bit of a different issue.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:19 PM   #4
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Re: Hypertrophy Ranking

It'd be nice to have more info. How are they eating? Like a powerlifter or like a gymnast? I guess I'd put it as a toss up between powerlifters and bodybuilders though.
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:04 PM   #5
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Re: Hypertrophy Ranking

I could give you one and two.

1) Bodybuilder
2) Powerlifter

I have never taken steroids in my life. Yet at the age of 29 my arms were 23 inches pumped at a body fat of 13%.

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Old 03-04-2008, 07:21 PM   #6
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Re: Hypertrophy Ranking

i have to disagree with everyone so far...
assuming the same eating habits
1 and 2) tie between powerlifter and weightlifter the two are too close to call
3 and 4) cf or gymnast again too close to call probably lean towards cf though
5) body builder
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:39 PM   #7
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Re: Hypertrophy Ranking

I rank working out intensely and eating enough to promote growth as number one. Your results may vary.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:02 PM   #8
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Re: Hypertrophy Ranking

This is an interesting question, but needs more detail.

Are the bodybuilders training like Arnold and the old-school guys (lots of heavy, multi-joint work) or are they training like the stereotyped HIT person (nautilus and other isolation machines exclusively)? That makes a big, big difference.

Stuff like that.



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Old 03-04-2008, 08:15 PM   #9
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Re: Hypertrophy Ranking

This may help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy

If we are looking for a swollen look (not super strength) bodybuilders win.


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Old 03-04-2008, 08:22 PM   #10
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Re: Hypertrophy Ranking

Yes, it's an impossible question... so many variables. There's no way everything else would be the same, but...

In my scenario.... The eating and sleeping habits would be exactly the same even though that might not make sport specific sense. The powerlifter and Oly lifter wouldn't be concerned with getting to big for a certain weight class, they only care about lifting more weight. The bodybuilder is mostly doing the split routines with a few full body lifts mixed in.

This question is about understanding what types of exercise really stimulate muscle hypertrophy. I don't think anyone really knows the correct answer for sure but it will be interesting to see what the consenus of this message board is.
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