CrossFit Discussion Board  

Go Back   CrossFit Discussion Board > CrossFit Forum > Digital Coaching
CrossFit Home Forum Site Rules CrossFit FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Digital Coaching Post pictures or movies for critique and coaching

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-28-2008, 06:53 PM   #1
Erin Davidson
Affiliate Erin Davidson is offline
 
Erin Davidson's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Philadelphia  PA
Posts: 2,948
yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

Here ya go.

Be as brutal as you like. I need to learn. I love this forum! Thanks.
__________________
Strength Anywhere is Strength Everywhere.
My Log - Crossfit Center City - Other Things
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2008, 07:07 PM   #2
Adam Scheiner
Member Adam Scheiner is offline
 
Adam Scheiner's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Philadelphia  PA
Posts: 1,091
Re: yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

Also posted this in your log,
In regards to the clean, your rushing the first and second pull. The reason you're falling forward is because you are pulling(2nd) too soon. Your also pulling it like a deadlift, your hips need to be lower. The 3rd pull is just you being a little afraid of getting under the bar I think you can get up to 135 once I show you some stuff. I'll you teach some of the drills I learned while I was in Boston on Thursday and bring in the Everett Oly lifting book. It's not bad though, just needs to be refined some.
__________________
my log
My affiliate
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2008, 07:08 PM   #3
Jason David
Affiliate Jason David is offline
 
Jason David's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: May 2008
Location: St. Clair Shores  MI
Posts: 3,037
Re: yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

I'm definitely not an expert...

Your hips (butt) seem to shoot up a little bit right before you start the lift...maybe try to start a little slower and keep the hips steady. Not sure how much of a difference it will make but once you get to right above the knees it will probably be easier to explode by opening up the hips. In short if you keep your hips lower/steady you will use more hip drive IMO.

Also,
If anybody thinks my advice is nuts thats fine too..just let me know.
__________________
www.stclairshorescrossfit.com

Last edited by Jason David : 10-28-2008 at 07:10 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2008, 07:21 PM   #4
Erin Davidson
Affiliate Erin Davidson is offline
 
Erin Davidson's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Philadelphia  PA
Posts: 2,948
Re: yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

to briefly respond - at my Crossfit Level I cert I was taught to clean from a deadlift position (high hips). Is this something that varies with who's coaching you or is it definitive that your hips ought to be closer to the bar? It's something I know I see all the time with competitive oly lifters and I have attempted to replicate it before...I can do it...just haven't read enough to know if I SHOULD do it.
__________________
Strength Anywhere is Strength Everywhere.
My Log - Crossfit Center City - Other Things
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2008, 07:24 PM   #5
Wade Smith
Member Wade Smith is offline
 
Wade Smith's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Savannah  GA
Posts: 1,269
Re: yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

You'd be much stronger without Phil Collins singing in the background
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2008, 07:28 PM   #6
Jason David
Affiliate Jason David is offline
 
Jason David's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: May 2008
Location: St. Clair Shores  MI
Posts: 3,037
Re: yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erin Davidson View Post
to briefly respond - at my Crossfit Level I cert I was taught to clean from a deadlift position (high hips). Is this something that varies with who's coaching you or is it definitive that your hips ought to be closer to the bar? It's something I know I see all the time with competitive oly lifters and I have attempted to replicate it before...I can do it...just haven't read enough to know if I SHOULD do it.
I agree with what you're saying but it seems like they shoot up higher (too high) right at the last second...

I noticed it more at 85#...

And just so you know. It still looks good!
__________________
www.stclairshorescrossfit.com

Last edited by Jason David : 10-28-2008 at 07:30 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2008, 07:31 PM   #7
Adam Scheiner
Member Adam Scheiner is offline
 
Adam Scheiner's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Philadelphia  PA
Posts: 1,091
Re: yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erin Davidson View Post
to briefly respond - at my Crossfit Level I cert I was taught to clean from a deadlift position (high hips). Is this something that varies with who's coaching you or is it definitive that your hips ought to be closer to the bar? .
No hips should be close to the bar. The high hip stuff they taught you at the level 1 cert is the way Rippetoe teaches the clean. Burgener teaches it differently. It's all in the oly lifting book and much much more!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wade Smith View Post
You'd be much stronger without Phil Collins singing in the background
She can't help it, Steve wasn't there to say this sucks and change it I kid I kid
__________________
my log
My affiliate
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2008, 07:38 PM   #8
Erin Davidson
Affiliate Erin Davidson is offline
 
Erin Davidson's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Philadelphia  PA
Posts: 2,948
Re: yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Phil Collins has a niiiiiice voice. But I didn't pick him. When I lift heavy I have to have something playing that I don't really notice. Actually sometimes its pretty wild to lift to Sigur Ros.

Anyway - I digress. James, I'm sure you're right - I make the same mistake in my deadlift - I lift the hips before I have a chance to use them.

Adam - I'll have to read that section of Everett's book...and the difference in teaching makes sense to me. I also don't mind at all if you want to show me some of the stuff you learned at CFB. I know Burgener and Ripp differ on a ton of minute points that end up making a BIG difference.
__________________
Strength Anywhere is Strength Everywhere.
My Log - Crossfit Center City - Other Things
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2008, 07:42 PM   #9
Adam Scheiner
Member Adam Scheiner is offline
 
Adam Scheiner's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Philadelphia  PA
Posts: 1,091
Re: yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erin Davidson View Post
Actually sometimes its pretty wild to lift to Sigur Ros.
You should try running or rowing to Sigur Ros. It is niiiice
__________________
my log
My affiliate
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2008, 07:47 PM   #10
Jenna Dodge
Affiliate Jenna Dodge is offline
 
Jenna Dodge's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bozeman  MT
Posts: 833
Re: yet another sad soul in need of squat clean critique

With regards to how high or low your hips should be when you start......I personally prefer a high position - the same as my DL. I had Burgener come and coach me for a couple of days, and he had me start with low hips. My other oly coach had my start with high hips - I like the higher hips better. I too have a tendency to lift my hips early. Starting with higher hips avoids this and I also don't tend to hit my knees with the bar as much. You might just experiment to see which you like. That's my point.

Why don't you leave the ground?

You're power cleaning and then squatting - which I think you know.

If your feet left the ground so that they could slam back down as you land in a front squat - that might help. If nothing else, you are definitely going to get more power if you jump.
__________________
Work to Eat, Eat to Live, Live to Bike, Bike to Work. Log
Blog
Bridger CrossFit
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Clean Critique Jeff Kolehmainen Digital Coaching 5 09-07-2008 05:33 AM
Hang Squat Clean critique Ryan Whipple Digital Coaching 2 03-08-2008 04:33 PM
Clean Form Critique Ben Kimmerle Digital Coaching 8 02-28-2008 09:56 AM
Critique - Power Clean Jeff Mouland Digital Coaching 8 01-12-2008 07:08 AM
Clean critique Bart Jones Digital Coaching 10 02-10-2006 03:31 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CrossFit is a registered trademark of CrossFit Inc.