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Old 07-20-2010, 10:02 PM   #29
Justin McCallon
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Re: Concerned what effect the 2010 programming will have on future competitors :(

Originally Posted by Tom Woodward View Post
In response to the OP, I don't think that's true. Look at some of the 'fittest' people in the range of sports that CrossFit is most similar to in terms of pathways:

Sprinting, olympic weightlifting, MMA, soccer, tennis, decathlon, gymnastics, powerlifting, endurance competitions....

justin gatlin, GSP, lionel messi, rafael nadal, bryan clay, every gymnast, every triathlete, and most weight class lifters, etc.

They are all on average under 6 feet, about 160-185 (gymnasts much smaller) and 10% BF or less. It's just the fact of the matter that small, lean individuals have a better mechanical advantage moving external objects and have to do less overall work moving their own body as well as external objects. All else being equal, their relative strength will always be higher. In a competition that spans all of the pathways (even if a 1RM lift is thrown in), a 6'2" 215 pound or bigger athlete will probably not be able to win.

Even if you get Pierre Spies ( WFS) to come workout against Speal or Rich Froning in a legit CrossFit comp, he'd probably lose. Would be fun to see though.
I agree with the point you're making here, but some of your examples are kinda off.

Put GSP in a fight against Brock Lesnar and he gets crushed. Even though he's, imo, the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, Brock's overwhelming size and strength advantage is too much.

Powerlifters/Oly lifters aren't small dudes. Especially not the ones moving the most weight. And almost all the elite ones put on as much muscle as possible (they keep low BF if they're not SHW's). Also, a lot of those sports aren't really the same energy systems as CF. The Decathlon is the most similar.

But again I agree with your general sentiment. Imo what you should theoretically see assuming a perfect competition, where the mix of strength/speed/endurance was equal when compared to the genetic limits of human performance performed by a gifted specialist, is a normal distribution of athletes ranging from various weights/sizes.

So, basically, someone that is 240-250 and 6'2-6'4 might have a .01% chance of winning, whereas someone of the ideal size of 5'9-5'11 and 180-190 might have a 30% chance of winning. This is all pretty theoretical but hopefully you get the point.
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