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Steven Thunander 02-15-2017 09:27 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Jayme Gruber;1266933]I'm convinced we're going to see handstand walks this year. Similar to how they did the overhead lunges last year. They kind of setup the model in terms of how to structure it with that less technical movement. HS walks have been a huge part of Regionals and the Games the last few years, I could see them being in the Open now. Not sure what the scaled option for that would be though.[/QUOTE]

I could see this. The Granite Games had them for intermediate athletes in the teams of 3, so did Wodapolooza. Also I sense that 17.1 and 17.2 will be done week 1. Two wods the first week.

Victor J McQuaide 02-16-2017 09:57 AM

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2014 Masters Games did hs walk for max distance. They had the older masters do walking overhead lunges with a d ball for scale. Kinda of weird to see 40+ guys not being able to do it.. OPT got no score and 2016 champ Ron M 45+ got 12' but strangely they gave him 120'.

Will Thorsen 02-17-2017 02:25 PM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Nicholas Wheeler;1267131]This seems a bit of a lop-sided match?[/QUOTE]

I think some of the big time athletes are being more selective on what they do outside of their normal course of training, whether it's open announcements or the demise of the East Coast Comp. So Crossfit gets to/has to expand the pool of folks from which to draw their open announcement competitors. I wonder if these start becoming (or have already become) paid appearances for the athletes.

Alex Burden 02-17-2017 03:03 PM

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This might be the end of the elite at the announcements. I hope Ro & Boz take it over. Bring normal people closer to them and the results.

Sorry to say its no fun watching a mismatch or people that we have never heard of.

Alex Burden 02-21-2017 02:38 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
Well there are only a couple of days left before the open.

[B][COLOR="Blue"]Good luck to everyone and lets bring it to the table.....[/COLOR][/B]

We never quit, we never give up..

Victor J McQuaide 02-23-2017 11:24 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
Wanted to wish everyone a happy open season. Even Scott!

Scott Jenkins 02-23-2017 06:18 PM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Victor J McQuaide;1267235]Wanted to wish everyone a happy open season. Even Scott![/QUOTE]

Happy Open Vic, enjoy the warm up

Will Thorsen 02-24-2017 04:49 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
so it begins...

i'm a mediocre crossfitter at best, but i'm going to give it a shot this morning. I'll let you all know how it goes. here's hoping to finish everything under the time cap!

Alex Burden 02-24-2017 10:21 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
I don't think we have seen the last of the dumbells yet. I think they are going to turn up once again.

Why..... i don't think Dave Castro would tell everyone to get 22kg and 15kg dumbells just to use them for 20min

Chris Lomen 02-24-2017 11:34 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
Question about movement standards, specifically for Scaled. For box step overs...do both feet have to touch on top? Seems like no, if they're technically allowed to jump completely over, but step ups in the judges course said both feet touch, but this is a step over not a step up...so I'm just going around in circles.

Hate the ambiguity of this sometimes. Don't want to make my athletes do anything that isn't required, but also don't want to give them an unfair advantage if I'm wrong. Has anyone seen an official response from CFHQ on this one?

Alex Burden 02-24-2017 12:23 PM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Chris Lomen;1267250]Question about movement standards, specifically for Scaled. For box step overs...do both feet have to touch on top? Seems like no, if they're technically allowed to jump completely over, but step ups in the judges course said both feet touch, but this is a step over not a step up...so I'm just going around in circles.

Hate the ambiguity of this sometimes. Don't want to make my athletes do anything that isn't required, but also don't want to give them an unfair advantage if I'm wrong. Has anyone seen an official response from CFHQ on this one?[/QUOTE]

[B]This is the standard[/B]
There is no requirement to stand tall while on top of the box. A two-foot takeo is always required, and only the athlete’s feet may touch the box. The athlete may jump on top of the box using a two-foot landing and then jump or step o to the other side, or the athlete may jump completely over the box. If jumping over the box, the feet must go over the box, not around it, and the athlete must use a two-foot landing.

[B]Scaled[/B]
There is no requirement to stand tall while on top of the box. Only the athlete’s feet may touch the box. The athlete may step up or jump on top of the box and then jump or step down on the other side, or the athlete may jump completely over the box. If jumping over the box, the feet must go over the box, not around it.

Michael E Tancini 02-24-2017 12:33 PM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
Hey guys, Just wanted to share with you a movement prep video I put together for 17.1. Its focused at helping you feel your best when you take on 17.1!

I'm not trying to solicit anything, just trying to help everyone out!

Link is Work and Family Safe
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkUmh_bUBE&t=505s[/url]

Have fun crushing this one!

Greg Morrison 02-24-2017 02:24 PM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
What happened to Vellner's score? He's down to 16th on the leaderboard and Fikowski is 6th.

Jon Campbell 02-25-2017 09:39 AM

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[QUOTE=Greg Morrison;1267255]What happened to Vellner's score? He's down to 16th on the leaderboard and Fikowski is 6th.[/QUOTE]

Not sure. Vellner finished at 11:52 but his submitted time is 12:57.

Will Thorsen 02-25-2017 10:52 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
ugh, that was unpleasant. i got 11 snatches into the 50 and then got capped. i did manage to bang both shins, so there's that. one and done for sure on this one. good luck everyone!

Diana Alt 02-25-2017 01:48 PM

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[QUOTE=Jon Campbell;1267263]Not sure. Vellner finished at 11:52 but his submitted time is 12:57.[/QUOTE]

Vellner was assessed a major penalty after video review due to touching his body with his empty hand multiple times on the snatches.

Jon Campbell 02-25-2017 05:46 PM

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[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1267266]Vellner was assessed a major penalty after video review due to touching his body with his empty hand multiple times on the snatches.[/QUOTE]
Just watched some of it and he definitely did in the round of 20. Used his left arm on his knee/thigh as he picked up the dumbbell. May have done it more but quit watching.

Jeff Railsback 02-25-2017 07:52 PM

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[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1267266]Vellner was assessed a major penalty after video review due to touching his body with his empty hand multiple times on the snatches.[/QUOTE]

Is there language in the current ruleboook that allows for major or minor penalties to be applied on non video submissions at this stage of the open?

Steven Thunander 02-25-2017 09:18 PM

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So, I do have a question... I judged someone but I did so at another affiliate. How are their scores validated?

Will Thorsen 02-26-2017 12:49 PM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Steven Thunander;1267270]So, I do have a question... I judged someone but I did so at another affiliate. How are their scores validated?[/QUOTE]

Whoever the box owner is at that affiliate should be the one the validates the score, but it wouldn't hurt to give that owner a heads up that you judged athlete so and so. That athlete will still need to submit their score online and have their affiliate owner do the validation like normal. Hope that helps!

Diana Alt 02-26-2017 01:41 PM

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[QUOTE=Jeff Railsback;1267269]Is there language in the current ruleboook that allows for major or minor penalties to be applied on non video submissions at this stage of the open?[/QUOTE]

I don't know, but it may be that they've decided to treat the open announcement like a video submission. It actually is a pretty smart idea to do that. If I was the affiliate owner, I wouldn't have validated the score had I seen the no reps anyway.

Jon Campbell 02-26-2017 05:56 PM

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[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1267276]I don't know, but it may be that they've decided to treat the open announcement like a video submission. It actually is a pretty smart idea to do that. If I was the affiliate owner, I wouldn't have validated the score had I seen the no reps anyway.[/QUOTE]
It's a shame it was missed at all. If any judge should catch that it's Boz.

Chris Lomen 02-27-2017 07:20 AM

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Looks like Sam Briggs gave it another go...9:47!!! She is amazing.

Victor J McQuaide 02-27-2017 04:36 PM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
Guess that they had too many technical difficulties and are extending the registration by one day. How many peeps are going to re do this knowing they have one more day. I try to get out and they keep pulling me in right?

Alex Burden 02-28-2017 01:07 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Victor J McQuaide;1267297]Guess that they had too many technical difficulties and are extending the registration by one day. How many peeps are going to re do this knowing they have one more day. I try to get out and they keep pulling me in right?[/QUOTE]

It would have been good to know because i would have given it a third try this morning, so for some people this will be an advantage.

Now the thing is that CFHQ has had a year to get this in place... so why the hell didn't they have this tested months ago before they released it.

If you have experienced coders that really know how to handle the data repository and ensure basic functionality, which is the most important, should actually working when the time comes for The Open this would never had happened. They never pressure tested it under load. I mean you have your web browsers/ipads/tablets and mobile devices that all require different interfaces and put different loads on application.... I have no idea, but they should have redundancy built into the solution with specific alarms that warn for this type of thing and then have a backup plan. Now due to the fact that the new face lifted version is not working they could have rolled back to the old version of entering scores and validation while the techs are working to fix the new version in the backend.

This does not look good for Crossfit at all, this is a big letdown. They had no back up, no plan if the **** should hit the fan and did not notify the athletes of the change. For us that were sleeping when this was announced missed the chance of a repeat.

Castro and company must be fuming.....

added:
Just checked the leaderboard and i can find myself in Europe for 45-49 but i am not in the worldwide leaderboard.... you can't even search for an Athlete... they have big problems and someone is going to get fired....

Jayme Gruber 02-28-2017 08:21 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
They were supposed to have a new app this year.

They don't even have all the functionality on the new site that the old site did, I can't look up my old Open scores by clicking on my profile, for example.

The site has been a mess since the announcement, going down on and off all weekend.

They told people originally to just email their scores to [email]support@crossfitgames.com[/email] before extending the deadline. I assume they got thousands of emails and freaked.

Their communication has been poor the entire time. Posting on Twitter, FB, etc. They have all our emails, you think they'd send out communications.

They made $6,500,000 off the Open in 2016 and had all year to get the new app and a functioning/stress tested site up, this is a huge fail.

On top of all that, they are trolling people hard on social media who are complaining about the issues. Don't get me wrong, it's funny. But in this instance, they should probably be a little more apologetic and kind.

Brad Gerbrandt 02-28-2017 09:26 AM

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I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch about this. I'm guessing no one on this board has created a website that will eventually have over 1.5 million unique data points all entered by different users. There's bound to be some issues. It's a bit more cumbersome than previous versions but that is the same complaint you always here when any site changes their layout.

As far as having the extension favouring some athletes, everyone thought they had 4 days to do the workout and now everyone has 5 days. How you decide to schedule your workouts is up to you. I'm guessing that no one shooting for the Games is overly concerned. Those who have an issue with this dropping them from 84583rd place to 84592nd place don't get the spirit of the open.

I had an issue submitting my score, sent them an email and got a response. With the storm going on right now I thought that was pretty good communication.

Jason A Smith 03-01-2017 06:06 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
This feels like week 1 2011 all over again, just this time instead of 26,000 people they have well over ten times that many, which is what they wanted........

Brad Gerbrandt 03-01-2017 08:45 AM

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Hey Jason, that's what I thought of as well. Let's hope this doesn't stretch to 7 weeks!

Jeff Railsback 03-01-2017 11:22 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
Just saw that Chandler Smith lost part of his ring finger after a piece of armor felll off a tank and smashed the tip off. Was looking forward to seeing him compete this year.

Andrew Bell 03-02-2017 08:36 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Jeff Railsback;1267325]Just saw that Chandler Smith lost part of his ring finger after a piece of armor felll off a tank and smashed the tip off. Was looking forward to seeing him compete this year.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you can find pics out there on fb or ig. Nasty. Feel bad for the guy really. :(

Jon Campbell 03-02-2017 09:07 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
Several big names dropping out already.

Jacob Heppner
Chandler Smith
Marcus Filly
Brooke Ence

David Larson 03-04-2017 09:41 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Brad Gerbrandt;1267307]I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch about this. I'm guessing no one on this board has created a website that will eventually have over 1.5 million unique data points all entered by different users. ....[/QUOTE]

I have. It's not hard if you just do a little grade-school math before you start...which I doubt they did. The math I'm talking about it: figure how much data you need to handle at what rate, then double or triple that as a safety margin and design accordingly. Then make sure you test it to insure your assumptions pan out, before you make it public. Like I said, it's not hard and they apparently [I]didn't do it[/I].

Diana Alt 03-04-2017 02:35 PM

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[QUOTE=David Larson;1267363]I have. It's not hard if you just do a little grade-school math before you start...which I doubt they did. The math I'm talking about it: figure how much data you need to handle at what rate, then double or triple that as a safety margin and design accordingly. Then make sure you test it to insure your assumptions pan out, before you make it public. Like I said, it's not hard and they apparently [I]didn't do it[/I].[/QUOTE]

David, while I agree that there were a lot of failures with the new website, your explanation shows that you have almost no understanding of what is involved in building significant web applications. It's not just simple arithmetic at all.

David Larson 03-05-2017 11:00 AM

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[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1267368]David, while I agree that there were a lot of failures with the new website, your explanation shows that you have almost no understanding of what is involved in building significant web applications. It's not just simple arithmetic at all.[/QUOTE]

LOL... 1.5 million users is not a significant web application.

Diana Alt 03-05-2017 06:54 PM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=David Larson;1267376]LOL... 1.5 million users is not a significant web application.[/QUOTE]


Depends on your perspective. In any case, you don't actually seem to know what the heck is involved in this, so I'd suggest you stay in your lane.

Alex Burden 03-06-2017 02:31 AM

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[B][COLOR="Blue"]Just some basic data to close the subject on the CF application and problems...[/COLOR][/B]

Here is my current thinking: off the top of my head
•Get a 1 or 2 gigabit internet connection.
•2x HA Proxies / load balancers.
•12x physical servers (2x quad cores, 32GB of ram) to run 25 Virtual Machine Apache web servers - 300 VMs total.
•2x memcached Servers (2x quad cores, 32GB of ram)
•2x Master Mysql DB servers, 3x read only slave mysql BD servers
•2x 6TB SAN RAIDs
•All 10GbE or fiber connected...

Figure out the hardware, and how to deploy and maintain it.

As for maintaining this beast, Slack, Rightscale, Landscape, VMware. deploy it on Amazon EC2 as it is much cheaper in the long run, rack it and add EC2 instances if more is needed.

Let me mention some of these general guidelines on scalability:
1.No single point of failure:
2.Have modular SOA architecure.
3.Have a framework to measure performance of your website to gauge improvements.
4.Load balancing
5.Caching - at browser, at CDN, local to a application server, global to application severs, distributed across servers.
6.No-sql DB
7.Optimizing relation DB - indexing, sharding, partioning.
8.reverse-proxy
9.Asynch queuing - Kafka, SNS.

[B]So now back to the Open...[/B]

Alex Burden 03-06-2017 02:53 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
Question----

Did you think 17.2 was harder than 17.1?

I thought 17.1 was hard as being over 200lbs and doing burpees is not ideal..

Aaron MacDougall 03-06-2017 06:44 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
I'm 6' and 200ish lbs at the moment and I found 17.1 very hard. Especially since I am coming off an injury and only got back to training a week before the open. The burpees really killed me. I think I could have gone 3 minutes or so faster if I was actually ready for the open.

17.2 wasn't nearly as bad cardio wise but my arms just fatigued too fast. I'm sure I could have pulled another 20-30 reps out of it if I had been able to prep for the open.

Alex Burden 03-06-2017 08:52 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Aaron MacDougall;1267390]I'm 6' and 200ish lbs at the moment and I found 17.1 very hard. Especially since I am coming off an injury and only got back to training a week before the open. The burpees really killed me. I think I could have gone 3 minutes or so faster if I was actually ready for the open.

17.2 wasn't nearly as bad cardio wise but my arms just fatigued too fast. I'm sure I could have pulled another 20-30 reps out of it if I had been able to prep for the open.[/QUOTE]

I'm 215 and 6ft. What kills me are the T2B, they take too long to complete so I loose allot of time. My grip was fine the whole time during 17.2. I reckon I could get 100+ reps easily if I could speed them up. I hit 92 reps today.

17.1 was hard on the lungs.... I'm hoping for some max 1rm or something so we have a chance against all these Duracell bunnies :D


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