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Tim Alford 03-13-2015 06:09 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Nicholas Wheeler;1250285]Now that we know what the workout is - what the hell did the Instagram video with Rory and Dave and the pool table mean?

"Start your engines" - engine based workout, can you keep moving - got it

pool table/9 ball/2 going in the hole twice - all the other "conspiracy" stuff - can anyone translate it?[/QUOTE]

That's exactly it, I don't think it means anything. Dave Castor LOVES the fact that anything he says this time of year is disected a thousand different ways to try and get a clue on what he's doing for the workouts. He loves messing with us.

As for everyone complaining about the MU's being first and then the scaled being SOOOO EAAASSSY (check Castro's IG, he's getting blown up) I think that you either get your first muscle up OR you go out there and get 1000 reps scaled since it is soooo easy. I would have preferred a sub for the MU's but Dave didn't do it so that's that.

Tim Alford 03-13-2015 06:10 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
One last thing, it would have been cool if Castro would have included DU's in the scaled workout by saying "single unders x 100 or DU's x 50, take your pick" but that would have been a nightmare to judge!

Matt Rigney 03-13-2015 06:28 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
I think my issue is more w/the overall programming so far vs. 15.3 specifically. And yes, as a disclaimer, I am a "RX minus muscle ups" person (who is hoping to nail muscle up #1 sometime before Monday). Oh, and the scale does suck for this workout....it's not easy...it's just completely different stimulus and limiters than the RX.

But here's my real issue so far (could change w/the last two weeks, but we'll see). So far, through 3 workouts, this has basically been a gymnasts dream. The limiter in all three WODs so far has been gymnastics ability

15.1: Toes to bar slowed people down, not snatches and deadlift
15.1a: This is the exception....but you're not scoring highly in week 1 w/o a good score on 15.1.
15.2: Chest to bar is what killed people, not OHS (yes, some cant' do OHS, but for intermediate to advanced athletes, it wasn't the OHS keeping them from moving on).
15.3: As we saw last night, muscle-ups separated Foucher and Brooks. For everyone else, muscle-ups will be the difference between Rx and scale (I'd guess 90%+ women scale and 80% of men do).

So through three workouts, if you're light and can swing from a bar, you're in the lead. It hasn't been about cardiovascular endurance (sure you need that for 15.3 and 15.2, but only it's not the make or break point). Only 15.1a has required strength in any traditional sense (yes, MU require strength, but it is a high skill movement as much as a strength movement), no scores have been limited by a persons speed, agility, etc.

I guess to me, this open (so far) has been one of the last balanced Opens I can remember. Now, like I said, there are 2 weeks left...and maybe we're done hanging from things. Thoughts, though? Has this Open been unbalanced/favored gymnasts (or a particular type) at the expense of those who have strength in other areas? I especially feel bad for those moderately skilled (e.g. adequate but not great at gymnastics moves) but with a huge engine. B/c they've basically been screwed so far (and no, I'm not one of those guys:-)).

Jayme Gruber 03-13-2015 06:48 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
I really don't think this WOD is going to screw people over on the scoreboard like they're all whining about.

Say in 13.3 you were able to complete the wall balls and double unders then spent 3 minutes just staring at the rings. You're in no different of a position this year with the MU first except you actually get to keep adding to your score for the entire time frame.

You would've been ranked below every single person that got even 1 MU before, which will be the same effect on this WOD.

The Open is in its 5th season now. If you're new to CrossFit, you're likely scaling and if you've been doing it for years and still don't have a muscle-up odds are you're scaling some WODs anyway.

Sure, I can see the reason people are complaining about the scaled option being boring, but it had to be designed not just for the fairly good athlete that just hasn't hit a MU yet, it had to be designed for the far greater amount of people that can't do double unders and were crying last year that they were in 14.1

You can't please everyone. This is a great separator WOD and maybe if you're on the cusp of getting your first MU you'll either surprise yourself or it'll motivate you to work that weakness into the ground before the 2016 Open rolls around.

Jason Rahm 03-13-2015 07:12 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
What about Natalie Newhart's 15.2 score being adjusted after video review and CLB being declared the winner now?

Alex Burden 03-13-2015 07:40 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Must admit 15.5 was not that exciting, they could of flipped it and had ring dips.

200 SU's
50 WB
7 ring dips

This would have given the same effect as before, if you can,t dip then you get to look at the bar after the WB's This would have been more of a challenge and split the field into 3.

Now on the other side of things - how important is it for people to go Rx rather than scaled?

in my case I would rather give maximum effort in the scaled than hit 1 rep just to say I went Rx.

Alex Burden 03-13-2015 07:41 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Jason Rahm;1250295]What about Natalie Newhart's 15.2 score being adjusted after video review and CLB being declared the winner now?[/QUOTE]

No big announcement about it either on the homepage !!!!!!

Wonder why,

Nicholas Wheeler 03-13-2015 08:15 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Alex Burden;1250297]Must admit 15.5 was not that exciting, they could of flipped it and had ring dips.

200 SU's
50 WB
7 ring dips

This would have given the same effect as before, if you can,t dip then you get to look at the bar after the WB's This would have been more of a challenge and split the field into 3.

Now on the other side of things - how important is it for people to go Rx rather than scaled?

in my case I would rather give maximum effort in the scaled than hit 1 rep just to say I went Rx.[/QUOTE]


There is a guy at my gym that is like this, so here is what I recommended to him - first do the workout scaled, give it everything you got, get the best scaled score you can. Nothing wrong with that. Then later (most likely monday, setup a 14 minute session of you attempting muscle-ups. Still get a solid workout in, and if you get your first muscle-up, you get a better score. Boom.

Alex Burden 03-13-2015 08:20 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Nicholas Wheeler;1250299]There is a guy at my gym that is like this, so here is what I recommended to him - first do the workout scaled, give it everything you got, get the best scaled score you can. Nothing wrong with that. Then later (most likely monday, setup a 14 minute session of you attempting muscle-ups. Still get a solid workout in, and if you get your first muscle-up, you get a better score. Boom.[/QUOTE]

Nothing wrong with that as you say. But is the score the most important?

I would not be pleased to tell people I did 1 rep in each workout and lifted 1kg in the lifts just to get on the Rx leaderboard.

But saying that if he is pleased and makes a breakthrough by hitting his MU then why not, who's to say how or what anyone should do.

Tighe Crovetti 03-13-2015 09:17 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Jason Rahm;1250295]What about Natalie Newhart's 15.2 score being adjusted after video review and CLB being declared the winner now?[/QUOTE]
Knocked a BUNCH of reps off. What was she at, 440-something?


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