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Tyler Goerlitz 05-26-2012 03:40 PM

CFT Numbers
 
Hey guys, I have been trying to gain some strength and and still doing it. I did my first CFT yesterday and scored a 625. I am curious as to how this score is and what a good score is? My goal by August is to get it closer to 800. Is that a reasonable goal? I am not part of a box so I basically train myself. My current weight is 145, and my numbers were 225 squat, 125 press and 275 deadlift. Thanks for the input guys.

Brian Strump 05-26-2012 04:40 PM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
Good strength numbers for a novice to shoot for would be 2x BW squats, BW shoulder press, 2.5x deadlift.

FWIW, I'm 5'8 165, and my last CFT # were
Squat= 365#
Press= 165
DL= 375

David Meverden 05-26-2012 05:22 PM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
Opinions differ but generally speaking Strong = 1000 CFT. That is about the min you need to have a chance at being a competitive CrossFitter. Of course that does not account for bodyweight. If you want to account for that you could use multiplier thumbrules like Brian talked about or check out the CrossFit.Com FAQ and look at their CFT chart:
http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/faq.html#WOD8 (WFS)
(please note that some people hate that chart because it's more useful for the terms "novice" "intermediate" and "advanced" to distinguish how people respond to training methods rather than relative strength. i.e. a naturally gifted person could be a novice in the training experience sense but really strong).

If you just want general fitness getting yourself in the "intermediate" category is fine, which you are already in, but because you are so light that still leaves you pretty weak. I think putting on 20 lbs of body weight and getting to 800-900 CFT would be a positive thing for you, unless you are really really short. If you are young, go on a pure strength program, and eat a LOT that could be feasible by August.

Eric R Cohen 05-27-2012 04:26 AM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
5 times bodyweight is a pretty good standard. This puts a 200 lb guy at 1,000.
Of course it depends on your goals, but for GPP, this is a good goal to aim for.

Bob Herald 05-27-2012 12:07 PM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
It's funny because everyone Says GPP. But you'd be hard pressed to find any amount of the general public (including soldiers firefighters and cops) that could get close to 800 cft. I'm a firefighter and most of the guys I work with have never had a barbell on their backs.

David Meverden 05-27-2012 12:19 PM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Herald (Post 1064332)
It's funny because everyone Says GPP. But you'd be hard pressed to find any amount of the general public (including soldiers firefighters and cops) that could get close to 800 cft. I'm a firefighter and most of the guys I work with have never had a barbell on their backs.

Don't you think those firefighters would be more effective at their jobs if they DID spend some time with barbells on their backs?

I think 5 x bodyweight CrossFit total is probably not worth the time and effort if your only goal is GPP for your occupation, but I think the fact that many soldiers/firefighters/cops are weak is not a criticism of our strength measurement, but is a criticism of their training regime.

Bob Herald 05-27-2012 04:41 PM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Meverden (Post 1064333)
Don't you think those firefighters would be more effective at their jobs if they DID spend some time with barbells on their backs?

I think 5 x bodyweight CrossFit total is probably not worth the time and effort if your only goal is GPP for your occupation, but I think the fact that many soldiers/firefighters/cops are weak is not a criticism of our strength measurement, but is a criticism of their training regime.

I absolutely agree. I preach it to the guys all the time. The guys that do lift, work the beach muscles for their calendar shoots. Theres probably a handful of guys on my entire department that have dead lifted or squatted since high school. Shameful actually.

I was remarking about how high those numbers are to be "generally physically prepared". I back squat 315 and bench press 245 for reps, and can climb 55 stories with 70 lbs of gear on. I consider myself above GPP. But according to those numbers, I need to be squatting 420 lbs to be considered fit. I'm not buying that.

Brian Strump 05-27-2012 05:03 PM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
I think David's reply was to the original poster's question, not what's best for GPP.

That's not to say that someone that can get to 5x BW will be better....just stronger as a percentage of body weight.

Stu Christensen 05-28-2012 08:35 AM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
A 5x body weight CFT is pretty high. I would guess most really fit CF'ers are not at 4x BW. IMO.

Will Feber 05-28-2012 10:58 AM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Christensen (Post 1064461)
A 5x body weight CFT is pretty high. I would guess most really fit CF'ers are not at 4x BW. IMO.

I got a CFT of 4x bw and most people here, include myself, seem to think I'm not that strong (yet). 5x doesn't seem crazy to me, unless you are extremely heavy.

Matthew Vesey 05-28-2012 11:48 AM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
I was always under the impression to strive for 1000 CFT. That being said, at 145 if your CFT was 1000 I would say that you would be a beast. Novice Lifters make the fastest progressions, so I do not think it is a pipe dream to aim for an 800 CFT. You might even find yourself surpassing your goals. Train hard and listen to the rest of the info that will follow in this thread. A lot of knowledge on this board.

Regards,

-Matt

Tyler Goerlitz 05-28-2012 12:48 PM

Re: CFT Numbers
 
Thanks for all the replies guys. The plan is to keep at it and train hard. Until now I really wasn't sure what "good" numbers were. I really want to get to the point where I can do the workouts as rx'ed, my body weight numbers are pretty good just lacking in strength. Good to know that 800 and possibly higher is a good goal to shoot for.


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