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Carson Au 01-16-2014 10:51 PM

Deadlift Form
 
Learning the deadlift. Form check please :)

http://youtu.be/uyxfpo08PAE

Greg Warren 01-17-2014 07:24 AM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
It looks to me like your butt is too high. Drop that down and really focus on activating your hamstrings & glutes. That will take some of the work off of your lower back.

Robert Fabsik 01-17-2014 11:13 AM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
I want more of your shoulders behind the bar then over the bar for the start. That will probably help get your butt down a little too. I agree that you might be starting just a tad high.

Also, getting more of your upper body back and your butt down will help get your knees out of the way.

Carson Au 01-17-2014 02:27 PM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
Thanks! Will do that next time

Kenny Markwardt 01-19-2014 03:23 PM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
Sorry guys, I disagree. I think too many people try and squat their deadlifts. I think his hips are in a pretty good spot. If we were talking cleans, I would agree that he should be more upright with his hips down.

Robert Fabsik 01-19-2014 03:45 PM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
I feel his hip height is on the border. I think it is more important to get more of his upper body behind the bar. This will help leverage against the weight. A byproduct of getting more of his upper body behind the bar might be a slightly lower hip starting position.

A question Carson has to ask himself is where does he get power out of his hips and legs? If we tell him to put his hips down more to start, then when he really starts to pull, his hips shoot up and then the weight moves, then he is starting too low. If we tell him to put his hips down more to start, and as he pulls his hips and shoulders elevate at virtually the same rate, then this might be a good position.

Zach Summers 02-06-2014 07:15 AM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
I'm very surprised by some of the comments on here. Your form looks very solid if we compare it to this video of a world record holder who almost deadlifts 5 times his weight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ5rY_beDLY SFW

Robert Fabsik 02-06-2014 09:37 AM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
What surprises?

Sounds like we just offered some minor tweaks.

Benjamin Conklin 02-06-2014 05:36 PM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
Your form is good. People around here tend to forget that the DL is a lower back exercise first. Much lower and it starts turning into a leg exercise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h8dpr01Q1s

Watch where he pulls from, not where he starts from, but his position as the plates leave the floor. Once you get more comfortable and you begin to learn how you like to stretch before a lift, you can do all kinds of different things also. But you dont pull 985 pounds without it being the most anatomically correct way possible. He is strong as hell, but without his form he couldnt pick that up.

Jason Denny 02-06-2014 07:07 PM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin Conklin (Post 1218053)
Your form is good. People around here tend to forget that the DL is a lower back exercise first. Much lower and it starts turning into a leg exercise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h8dpr01Q1s

Watch where he pulls from, not where he starts from, but his position as the plates leave the floor. Once you get more comfortable and you begin to learn how you like to stretch before a lift, you can do all kinds of different things also. But you dont pull 985 pounds without it being the most anatomically correct way possible. He is strong as hell, but without his form he couldnt pick that up.

He's wearing my knee sleeve on his elbows....

Robert Fabsik 02-06-2014 08:09 PM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
Yes we can find videos of all types of deadlifts often done by awesome deadlifters.

Regardless of what you see, you have to figure out what works best for you without hurting your body. Some guys can do a back dominant deadlift and move a lot of weight without injury. Other can get a lot out of a more squat movement. And many blend the two.

So a high hip start might be great for some but for many it will compromise them. It depends on their body types and relative muscle strengths.

Watching the OP's post, a slightly lower hip position may help him, he needs to try and see. If after some practice, it feels awkward and he can't pull as much then he may have to tweak it differently.

Brian Shaw kicks butt. Most deadlifters would disagree with his stance width. The video of Hawthorn talking about deadlift setup would most likely disagree with Shaw's stance. But you won't know what's right until you get your hands on the bar and try it.

Again, I'm not sure why folks are upset when some of us suggested some small changes. I feel he has too much of his body in front of the bar (look at how his knees get in the way on the eccentric) and could benefit from trying to get more of himself behind it. He should try it and if if feels like dirt, drop it and go back to the current method.

Many ways to skin a cat.

BrandonSmith 02-08-2014 05:31 PM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
I would say that it looks good, but maybe try to lower but a but if it is not burning in your hamstrings, when you feel that hamstring burn that makes you want to stand, that's when you should lift.

Zach Summers 02-12-2014 07:12 AM

Re: Deadlift Form
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Fabsik (Post 1218082)
Yes we can find videos of all types of deadlifts often done by awesome deadlifters.

Regardless of what you see, you have to figure out what works best for you without hurting your body. Some guys can do a back dominant deadlift and move a lot of weight without injury. Other can get a lot out of a more squat movement. And many blend the two.

So a high hip start might be great for some but for many it will compromise them. It depends on their body types and relative muscle strengths.

Watching the OP's post, a slightly lower hip position may help him, he needs to try and see. If after some practice, it feels awkward and he can't pull as much then he may have to tweak it differently.

Brian Shaw kicks butt. Most deadlifters would disagree with his stance width. The video of Hawthorn talking about deadlift setup would most likely disagree with Shaw's stance. But you won't know what's right until you get your hands on the bar and try it.

Again, I'm not sure why folks are upset when some of us suggested some small changes. I feel he has too much of his body in front of the bar (look at how his knees get in the way on the eccentric) and could benefit from trying to get more of himself behind it. He should try it and if if feels like dirt, drop it and go back to the current method.

Many ways to skin a cat.

This is an excellent post.

I am just suffering from information overload haha You see one set of coaching points, then another, and another.

You just gotta try different ways and see what works best for you.


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