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Jon Campbell 05-29-2015 06:53 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1253177]I think that they accomplished EXACTLY what they wanted with the design of this event. They wanted to force weakness in the women to be exploited and this event as designed works perfectly for that.

My day was pretty good. I'm enjoying judging a lot. Unfortunately one of the girls from my gyms teamgit very overheated during the first event with disastrous results - they came in dead last. They followed it up with a 4th place finish in event 2, though. Tomorrow is another day![/QUOTE]

I think what he is saying through is the men are render basically unless in this event. You could have the women only go and the result is the exact same. None if the women had to wait for the men to finish a movement did they? At least I didn't see any that did. So basically the men did their thing, got out of the way, and it was completely on the women.

Helen M Brennan 05-29-2015 07:40 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
well the pacofic regionals have co9mee and gone. I have embarrassed myself while watching CrossFit Rocks Team competing in event 7 by yelling so loudly that my neighbours phobed to ask if I was OK..( I live on 50 acres :o )

The thrill of watching the team from my box qualify 3rd in the region was incredible. They are a champion team.

To say I am proud of them would be a gross understatement.

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Snir Golan 05-30-2015 08:24 AM

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Man, Rich is not happy. Gotta be so frustrating to have 1 athlete struggling and holding the team back like that.

Shawn M Wilson 05-30-2015 10:52 AM

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[QUOTE=Snir Golan;1253188]Man, Rich is not happy. Gotta be so frustrating to have 1 athlete struggling and holding the team back like that.[/QUOTE]

That is the joy of a team event. Weakest link holds you back.

Snir Golan 05-30-2015 02:24 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Julie is probably out with a tear to the Achilles. can we please stop with the BJ rebound now and switch to step downs only?

Helen M Brennan 05-30-2015 05:55 PM

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[QUOTE=Snir Golan;1253188]Man, Rich is not happy. Gotta be so frustrating to have 1 athlete struggling and holding the team back like that.[/QUOTE]

as others have said that is part of team work... the art of teamwork is to have a members who can complement each others strengths and weaknesses and to also have the ability to be a champion Team as opposed to a team of champions.


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Mark Ritchie 05-30-2015 06:07 PM

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[QUOTE=Snir Golan;1253192]Julie is probably out with a tear to the Achilles. can we please stop with the BJ rebound now and switch to step downs only?[/QUOTE]

That would explain the low finish.

We don't allow rebounding at our box -- even in competitions. Too high of a risk -- and if you time it, as we did during the Open, step up/step down can be faster, and if you want to test jumping, step down is fine. Just have everyone at the same standard...

But I doubt they will change it for Regionals/Games -- but it IS progress they allowed it during the Open.

Edited to add: I just watched the commentary, and "freak accident" is not what happened. This happens a lot -- so it is a predictable injury, not a freak accident.

Snir Golan 05-30-2015 06:52 PM

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[QUOTE=Mark Ritchie;1253199]That would explain the low finish.

We don't allow rebounding at our box -- even in competitions. Too high of a risk -- and if you time it, as we did during the Open, step up/step down can be faster, and if you want to test jumping, step down is fine. Just have everyone at the same standard...

But I doubt they will change it for Regionals/Games -- but it IS progress they allowed it during the Open.

Edited to add: I just watched the commentary, and "freak accident" is not what happened. This happens a lot -- so it is a predictable injury, not a freak accident.[/QUOTE]


Yeah I really didn't like how they called it freak accident. This injury happened before more than once and it is a well documented risk with rebounding box jumps.

Christopher Morris 05-30-2015 07:31 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
It looks like it was Julie's right achilles was the one that was injured. This is the ankle she was wearing the timing strap on. If she wore it tight, I wonder if impingement could be a factor in the injury?

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKxoz6l3uFg&t=150m45s[/url] (wfs)

Unbelievable. She still did the handstand walk and got 4th place in her heat, wearing an orthopedic boot.

Christopher Morris 05-30-2015 09:37 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
After the 2014 Games season wrapped up, I made a prediction for the 2015 Games podium:

[quote]
The women's individual results seem more unpredictable than the men's. This is the podium I'd like to see next year:

1 - Julie Foucher
2 - Valerie Voboril
3 - Kara Webb[/quote]

My bracket is shot, so to speak. I made that prediction in August 2014. Val Voboril didn't qualify for the Games at her Regional, and Julie Foucher is out now, sadly.

CrossFit the competitive sport has developed beyond ever having a "dream team" competition of all the best athletes in one place at one time. Someone is out for an injury, or didn't qualify, etc.

Richard Colon 05-30-2015 10:05 PM

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1253205]CrossFit the competitive sport has developed beyond ever having a "dream team" competition of all the best athletes in one place at one time. Someone is out for an injury, or didn't qualify, etc.[/QUOTE]

I'll start by first saying, I am one of the biggest fans of MANY things Crossfit. I follow the games season like a kid does the calendar during the last weeks of December. I respect, enjoy and overall am impressed and entertained by the workouts, events, programming and all those things - specific to high level competition (regionals and games).

All that being said, in regards to Christopher's statement. So long as there are still some really dumb fuking movements and standards, you won't have the dream team. You can't call it "$hit happens", you can't sugar coat, you can't just blow it over with how proud we all are that Julie continued anyway (which was awesome). You can't just gloss over it and talk about how well she was doing, how well she cushioned her lead, how well this or that. Call it like it is. There is some really retarded programming and standards sometimes. At the highest levels of competition, that should NEVER be the case. It makes it all look very elementary school amateur from those on the outside looking in. Those that want to support their kids in becoming the next Fraser or Annie.

To allow things with such high risk with NO reward (what changes with a step down vs. jump and rebound other than a HUGE decrease in injury potential). Sometimes, along with SDHP, and..well I won't go on with the $hit of some Crossfit movements/standards. All it looks like at times is Crossfit programs for the sake of distinguishing itself as Crossfit with regard for the safety of its athletes as a secondary thing. Otherwise, WTF...still have rebounding jumps. Still have team DL, now with uneven weight and no standards in height with athlete 1 vs. 2?

It still, while maybe only 3% of the time, looks like high level Crossfit competition resembles a monkey fuking a football. That injury shouldn't have happened.

Diana Alt 05-31-2015 03:24 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Snir Golan;1253192]Julie is probably out with a tear to the Achilles. can we please stop with the BJ rebound now and switch to step downs only?[/QUOTE]

Her Achilles didn't go on a rebound. I was pretty close by, am friends with the judge who was six inches away, and talked to both Julie and Medical about it. Nobody is attributing rebounds - and God knows Medical would be happy to do so.

Snir Golan 05-31-2015 03:32 AM

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[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1253209]Her Achilles didn't go on a rebound. I was pretty close by, am friends with the judge who was six inches away, and talked to both Julie and Medical about it. Nobody is attributing rebounds - and God knows Medical would be happy to do so.[/QUOTE]

The video is very clear . She jumps down and as she jumps up it happens. It's never the actual rebound, it's the fact that you are rebounding and never let the muscle fully de load. There really is no reason to defend CrossFit here. We all saw this injury before and at this point, everybody knows that box jumps rebounds is just asking for trouble and really offer nothing other than "oh god look how fast he is going" moment.

Desmond Pegrum 05-31-2015 04:04 AM

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Really sucks Julie is out

not a fun injury to have

I really want to see Sam Dancer at the Games and Cody Anderson

To me that will show that the Regional events have been well programmed allowing different kinds of athletes with vastly different strengths to excel.

I don't want to see a games full of Rich Froning clones (clones in terms of physical makeup, 185 to 190 pounds etc)

Christopher Morris 05-31-2015 07:33 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1253209]Her Achilles didn't go on a rebound. I was pretty close by, am friends with the judge who was six inches away, and talked to both Julie and Medical about it. Nobody is attributing rebounds - and God knows Medical would be happy to do so.[/QUOTE]

What else did they attribute it to?

Jason Fischer 05-31-2015 01:02 PM

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I wonder how all the women Julie Foucher is beating feel right now.... Got to be frustrating. Ha ha

Diana Alt 05-31-2015 04:01 PM

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1253215]What else did they attribute it to?[/QUOTE]

I don't feel comfortable saying any more - i shouldn't have spoken about it all given that we are talking medical stuff. I was worn out from people playing armchair quarterback that were not here and have no first hand knowledge and opened my yap. Add that to the fact that What everyone thinks right after the incident and what you figure out a little layer are often different, and it's a no win discussion for all of us.

Snir Golan 05-31-2015 04:52 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1253225]I don't feel comfortable saying any more - i shouldn't have spoken about it all given that we are talking medical stuff. I was worn out from people playing armchair quarterback that were not here and have no first hand knowledge and opened my yap. Add that to the fact that What everyone thinks right after the incident and what you figure out a little layer are often different, and it's a no win discussion for all of us.[/QUOTE]

nobody is playing armchair quarterback. torn Achilles while doing high rep box jumps = same cause 99% of the time. Again, this is not some freak accident like the one that happened to Ogar, this is an injury that we saw many times before and always in the same situation. If this is not a result of the box jumps, than i am very curious to hear what it was a result of.

Michael E Tancini 05-31-2015 04:58 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
If it is a partial AT tear, This one workout did not cause the injury alone. Achilles Tendon ruptures/injury's are most often a chronic overuse injury, that is the accumulation of many-many micro traumas that happen at a quicker rate than the tendon can naturally repair itself. Its an extremely strong tendon. Essentially that last jump was just "the straw that broke the camels back." Blaming this injury on high rep rebounding box jumps just isn't something that you can do. This injury happens in tons of other sports in which there is cutting or changing direction, eccentric contraction followed immediately by a concentric contraction. Happens in basketball, soccer, tennis, etc. Was she doing box jumps when it happened...yes...but was that the major underlying cause of the injury...probably not.

Whatever the injury is, I wish Julie the best of luck. I really-really hate seeing people get injured. Especially someone like her. I'd really like to believe that the injury isnt too serious and that it doesnt require any extensive recovery, but with her saying "I thought a barbell hit me in the back of the leg, then I wasnt able to use it" is a pretty tell-tell subjective report that leads itself towards an AT injury.

Snir Golan 05-31-2015 05:15 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Michael E Tancini;1253228]If it is a partial AT tear, This one workout did not cause the injury alone. Achilles Tendon ruptures/injury's are most often a chronic overuse injury, that is the accumulation of many-many micro traumas that happen at a quicker rate than the tendon can naturally repair itself. Its an extremely strong tendon. Essentially that last jump was just "the straw that broke the camels back." Blaming this injury on high rep rebounding box jumps just isn't something that you can do. This injury happens in tons of other sports in which there is cutting or changing direction, eccentric contraction followed immediately by a concentric contraction. Happens in basketball, soccer, tennis, etc. Was she doing box jumps when it happened...yes...but was that the major underlying cause of the injury...probably not.

Whatever the injury is, I wish Julie the best of luck. I really-really hate seeing people get injured. Especially someone like her. I'd really like to believe that the injury isnt too serious and that it doesnt require any extensive recovery, but with her saying "I thought a barbell hit me in the back of the leg, then I wasnt able to use it" is a pretty tell-tell subjective report that leads itself towards an AT injury.[/QUOTE]


good information and you are probably correct. its just that i am a firm believer in making things as safe as possible so i still don't understand why they can't just make step down the standard.

regardless, i wish Julie all the best, she is an incredible person and an athlete and i am going to miss watching her compete.

Benji Whitehead 05-31-2015 05:21 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Sure it happens to athletes in other sports but not at the rate that it happens to CrossFitters doing box jumps. Think about how many people play basketball and the number of games/players in the NBA and NCAA. I remember hearing about it happen to a handful of top players in my lifetime and maybe one player every year. With CF and box jumps it is happening a lot. The movement isn't safe. Sure people can get hurt doing any of the other movements, but chances are on those the injury is from a lack of strength/training, going too heavy, bad form, etc. I don't know that there is much that can be done to prevent what's happening on the box jumps other than stop doing them and step down instead of rebounding. It's also a terribly boring thing to watch them struggle through even when they aren't getting injured. Do some burpees or burpee bar jump overs or something else to keep their heart rate up and test their engines.

Shawn M Wilson 05-31-2015 06:24 PM

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I gave up years ago doing bounding. Local guy tore his years ago in the open DL and box jump workout.

I agree there are lots of other options to raise the HR and have less risk for injury of athletes.

If we want/need box jumps do it for max height, 3 attempts in 10 mins or something (no decrease in height per attempt). Of course we will run into the big height short vs tall person debate.

Richard Colon 05-31-2015 06:33 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
The parts about "it wasn't directly related to the rebound of it, you weren't there, the medical said this or that"..just blah.

She is hurt. She injured her Achilles. She did it during a box jump. Enough said. Everything else starts to have a bit of odor to it..

The parts about "it happens in other sports"..just blah.

Other sports require that risk. You could drop the bar on your head during a Snatch but the risk comes with it and yes - $hit happens. How do you compete in the sport of Olympic Weightlifting without putting the bar over your head?

You could say achilles injuries happen when cutting or changing direction but how exactly do you play a highly competitive game of basketball or complete a tennis match at the highest level without changing direction and cutting? Not going to happen, therefore, the risk..well you just have to take it, because the movement is necessary and without that movement, you can't call it tennis or basketball. It is PART of the game/sport.

The box jump however...what are you testing? One of two things in my mind.

- The ability to jump, in which case, why not just do low rep, very high box jumps (max height stuff). Sure, there may be some injury, but its more in the sense of bang up a body part, bruise something, smack a shin (unless you use soft boxes). Or simply do a vertical leap test - like in the NFL Combine.

- The ability to test cardiovascular fitness, engine, HR, work capacity - whatever the FU. What's wrong with sprints on the new Freeform thing, burpees, med ball slams, and about 4,000 other things to test HR.

Point is - you can create the same stimulus and test the EXACT same things using movements that are significantly less risky. With box jumps as we've seen them, you have the risk - which we all know, and the reward (or point you are trying to illustrate) can be achieved in many other ways - just as easily. Therefore, you have unnecessary risk. When you create [B]unnecessary risk[/B] at the highest level, which happens to remove one of the greatest athletes this "sport" has seen (in multiple regards), well then, from the outside looking in, it just looks retardedly foolish and selfish.

Jeff Railsback 05-31-2015 07:08 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
What happened to the girl on the GHD in the final heat of of team event 6 at the central regional?

Snir Golan 05-31-2015 08:04 PM

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[QUOTE=Jeff Railsback;1253234]What happened to the girl on the GHD in the final heat of of team event 6 at the central regional?[/QUOTE]

They said dislocated knee.

Diana Alt 05-31-2015 08:26 PM

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[QUOTE=Snir Golan;1253236]They said dislocated knee.[/QUOTE]

I had heard hyperextension of the knee right after we came off the floor but it was mass craziness. Definitely looked like knee stuff though.

Ludovic Deguy 06-01-2015 01:36 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Happy to see Lucas Parker & Scott Panchik finish at the 1st place in their regions, they desserve it.

There are amazing young athletes out there and we saw crazy performances, but in the end, after the full 3 days of competition, you always see the well-rounded "veterans" rising above all the young guns.

Tim Alford 06-01-2015 06:42 AM

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WOW! Those 3 weeks went by fast. I have to say, of course there were people that didn't make it (like there is every year) Foucher and Bridges are my big 2. But more importantly.....how was that team competition?? With NorCal, Ute, and Mayhem all winning their regions (I still can't believe Mayhem won) I am super impressed. As much as I love Rich and James, I don't think they will beat the other two teams I mentioned. I can see these 3 being on the podium though, which would be exactly what Crossfit is hoping for!

Now we sit....and wait for July!

Miles Roberts 06-01-2015 07:47 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1253202]It looks like it was Julie's right achilles was the one that was injured. This is the ankle she was wearing the timing strap on. If she wore it tight, I wonder if impingement could be a factor in the injury?

[/QUOTE]

I wondered that too. I also wondered if she alternated how she landed, if it might have prevented the injury. If you watch, she turned on top of the box so her right ankle was always on the outside, so her right ankle always had the most stress on it. Compared to some athletes who wouldn't turn on the box, so they were alternating which ankle got the most abuse.

Either way, I feel absolutely awful for her. She was doing great at Regionals, great in that event, and based on how she did on the remainder of the events, she may have won the region if it weren't for the injury.

Maybe she'll decide to give it one more shot next year. I hope so.

Tighe Crovetti 06-01-2015 08:31 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
As soon as I saw what happened, I said Achilles, I was actually surprised the announcers and even Julie seemed to be confused about what happened. If you were watching, you noticed that she immediately looked behind her with this confused look on her face, this "what was that??" expression. I've always heard that tearing your Achilles feels like you've been kicked in the heel. I think that's exactly what she felt, and was looking back like, "who did that??" On the replays, I was actually re-terrified because when she came down off the box after the injury, she came down with that right leg first. She's probably lucky she didn't full tear it by doing that.

Just an awful bout of bad luck. I'm with everyone on the danger of rebounding, and while I agree that it takes previous wear and tear and microtraumas to contribute, I don't think those microtraumas will eventually add up to a tear. I think rebounding is the best (worst) way to finally finish off your Achilles. I don't step down when I do box jumps/overs, but I always take just a brief moment for my entire foot to come down and re-load my legs and glutes to take off again, instead of just popping right back up off my toes/calves. It's not worth it for me to shave those milliseconds.

Ryan Hoegner 06-01-2015 08:37 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Tighe Crovetti;1253254]As soon as I saw what happened, I said Achilles, I was actually surprised the announcers and even Julie seemed to be confused about what happened. If you were watching, you noticed that she immediately looked behind her with this confused look on her face, this "what was that??" expression. I've always heard that tearing your Achilles feels like you've been kicked in the heel. I think that's exactly what she felt, and was looking back like, "who did that??" On the replays, I was actually re-terrified because when she came down off the box after the injury, she came down with that right leg first. She's probably lucky she didn't full tear it by doing that.

[/QUOTE]

Basically feels like somebody hit you in the calf with a ball or kicked you. Doesn't really hurt. Then all of the sudden you have a limp. Happened to me playing basketball. I walked out, drove home, took a shower and then went to the hospital. It's a weird feeling.

I wish Julie a speedy recovery.

Greg Morrison 06-01-2015 09:32 AM

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It was cool to see Froning do the rope climbs with 1 pull. He jumped as high as he could and then grabbed the rope with his feet right up next to his hands and stood up to touch at the top.

Victor J McQuaide 06-01-2015 10:14 AM

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yes Rich went from the worst to the best rope climber.. just what he does.

Sadly Julie F ends Crossfit with injury. Semi common one..

Overall was way better than last year.

Christopher Morris 06-01-2015 10:27 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Michael E Tancini;1253228]Achilles Tendon ruptures/injury's are most often a chronic overuse injury, that is the accumulation of many-many micro traumas that happen at a quicker rate than the tendon can naturally repair itself. [/QUOTE]

This is why a highly conditioned athlete like Julie Foucher or Jamie Hagiya can still get Achilles tears.

[QUOTE=Tighe Crovetti;1253254]I always take just a brief moment for my entire foot to come down and re-load my legs and glutes to take off again, instead of just popping right back up off my toes/calves. [/QUOTE]

I do this as well. Definitely a good idea when working out at home or for general health.

As far as competition standards, a step down would be the most easily observable standard to guarantee de-loading the calf and Achilles.

[QUOTE=Greg Morrison;1253257]It was cool to see Froning do the rope climbs with 1 pull. He jumped as high as he could and then grabbed the rope with his feet right up next to his hands and stood up to touch at the top.[/QUOTE]

No kidding! He's practically hanging upside down to set his feet.

Christopher Morris 06-01-2015 10:33 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
I'm a big Nick Fory fan. He's the highest level competitor that I know personally.

His performance in the Central Regional was all over the place: highest event finish was 3rd place, lowest was 25th place. His overall placement was 6th place, 37 points behind 5th place. So frustrating to see him come so close year after year!

He's a great guy, and it's a lot of fun watching him compete.

Not as heartbreaking as Cody Anderson though - missed 5th place by one point, by one second in the last event. Argh!

Michael Cook 06-01-2015 01:55 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Another thing I liked about the set up at Regionals this year is that the competitors and judges did not have to crawl under the plexiglass wall to do HSPU. Crawling under the wall always seemed a really dumb looking part of the competition.

As far as Foucher's injury and high rep box jumps, I would prefer to see burpee box jumps. You still test jumping and conditioning, and it eliminates the possibility of bounding. Also, I think it could separate athletes better. The difference between a fast set of burpee box jumps vs a slow set of burpee box jumps is more than the difference between a fast and slow set of box jumps.

Tighe Crovetti 06-02-2015 09:52 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Just the math nerd in me, and I only did it for the guys.... If you combined everyone into just one large group, and took the top 40, this would be your Games group, in order:

Mathew Fraser, Jonne Koski, Jacob Heppner, Dan Bailey, Noah Ohlsen, Aaron Hanna, Scott Panchik, Alex Vigneault, Paul Tremblay, Lucas Parker, Nick Urankar, Elijah Muhammad, Graham Holmberg, Josh Bridges, Ben Smith, Björgvin Karl Guðmundsson, Brent Fikowski, Kevin Simons, Cody Anderson, Alec Smith, Cole Sager, Sam Dancer, Shane McBride, Zachary Moran, Austin Malleolo, Daniel Tyminski, Zach Carlin, Gerald Sasser, Steven Fawcett, Neal Maddox, Rob Forte, Alex Anderson, Nathan Bramblett, Tyson Takasaki, Roderick Holloway, Chad Melton, Nicholas DelGrande, Jacob Anderson, Kenneth Leverich, Garret Fisher

It includes these fifteen guys that did NOT finish top 5 in their (super-)region, in order of finish, the first five of which are top 20 in the combined group, and not going to Carson:
Paul Tremblay, Josh Bridges, Brent Fikowski, Alec Smith, Cody Anderson, Sam Dancer, Shane McBride, Zachary Moran, Zach Carlin, Gerald Sasser, Roderick Holloway, Jacob Anderson, Nicholas DelGrande, Kenneth Leverich, Garret Fisher

These fifteen guys did actually qualify but were not in that top total 40:
Spencer Hendel, Ben Garard, Roy Gamboa, Jon Pera, Jordan Cook, Kevin Manuel, Julian Alcaraz, Travis Williams, Chad Cole, Lukas Högberg, Adrian Conway, Khan Porter, Chad Mackay, Phil Hesketh

Noteworthy: Fraser finished 40 points clear of Koski, who finishes forty points clear of Heppner. Dan Bailey was just 15 points behind him, but was clear of Ohlsen by almost 60 points. Packed tight at Ohlsen, Hanna and Panchik, 21 points down to Vigneault, 18 points to Parker, 11 points to Urankar, and by then we're at half of Fraser's total. Based on that, unless the Games pulls out a whole different array of tests, your podium finishers are going to come from Panchik on up. I think Fraser, Koski and Bailey are the favorites, with Ohlsen close behind, as they seemed to be the most consistent across everything. Heppner did great in 5 wods but had a 103rd (5) and 292nd (7) in there, could be exposed in Carson. Bailey had a 72nd and 93rd but three top 10's. Ohlsen had nothing out of the top 50, but three 40's, two top 10's. Koski did have a 167th (Event 5) but three top 10s, including an overall win (1). Fraser's worst was 53rd with four top 10's, including an overall win (3).

Tim Alford 06-02-2015 10:27 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Tighe Crovetti;1253303]Just the math nerd in me, and I only did it for the guys.... If you combined everyone into just one large group, and took the top 40, this would be your Games group, in order:

Mathew Fraser, Jonne Koski, Jacob Heppner, Dan Bailey, Noah Ohlsen, Aaron Hanna, Scott Panchik, Alex Vigneault, Paul Tremblay, Lucas Parker, Nick Urankar, Elijah Muhammad, Graham Holmberg, Josh Bridges, Ben Smith, Björgvin Karl Guðmundsson, Brent Fikowski, Kevin Simons, Cody Anderson, Alec Smith, Cole Sager, Sam Dancer, Shane McBride, Zachary Moran, Austin Malleolo, Daniel Tyminski, Zach Carlin, Gerald Sasser, Steven Fawcett, Neal Maddox, Rob Forte, Alex Anderson, Nathan Bramblett, Tyson Takasaki, Roderick Holloway, Chad Melton, Nicholas DelGrande, Jacob Anderson, Kenneth Leverich, Garret Fisher

It includes these fifteen guys that did NOT finish top 5 in their (super-)region, in order of finish, the first five of which are top 20 in the combined group, and not going to Carson:
Paul Tremblay, Josh Bridges, Brent Fikowski, Alec Smith, Cody Anderson, Sam Dancer, Shane McBride, Zachary Moran, Zach Carlin, Gerald Sasser, Roderick Holloway, Jacob Anderson, Nicholas DelGrande, Kenneth Leverich, Garret Fisher

These fifteen guys did actually qualify but were not in that top total 40:
Spencer Hendel, Ben Garard, Roy Gamboa, Jon Pera, Jordan Cook, Kevin Manuel, Julian Alcaraz, Travis Williams, Chad Cole, Lukas Högberg, Adrian Conway, Khan Porter, Chad Mackay, Phil Hesketh

Noteworthy: Fraser finished 40 points clear of Koski, who finishes forty points clear of Heppner. Dan Bailey was just 15 points behind him, but was clear of Ohlsen by almost 60 points. Packed tight at Ohlsen, Hanna and Panchik, 21 points down to Vigneault, 18 points to Parker, 11 points to Urankar, and by then we're at half of Fraser's total. Based on that, unless the Games pulls out a whole different array of tests, your podium finishers are going to come from Panchik on up. I think Fraser, Koski and Bailey are the favorites, with Ohlsen close behind, as they seemed to be the most consistent across everything. Heppner did great in 5 wods but had a 103rd (5) and 292nd (7) in there, could be exposed in Carson. Bailey had a 72nd and 93rd but three top 10's. Ohlsen had nothing out of the top 50, but three 40's, two top 10's. Koski did have a 167th (Event 5) but three top 10s, including an overall win (1). Fraser's worst was 53rd with four top 10's, including an overall win (3).[/QUOTE]

Great work, Tighe! It's nice to see, the results are always a little skewed because some regions are tougher than others. It's nice to see how they line up as equals. Of course, if you're in a weaker region, theoretically the pace could be slower to win a WOD which means you may not push as hard, but that's getting too nit-picky. I think Fraser remains the man to beat. But Carson is crazy, who knows!

Justin Brown 06-02-2015 10:58 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1253237]I had heard hyperextension of the knee right after we came off the floor but it was mass craziness. Definitely looked like knee stuff though.[/QUOTE]

Broke her patella. Which is too bad as the team was in second place at the time, would have done very well in that workout (shown by their 2 females finishing the 50 muscle ups before multiple teams), and should have been on their way to the games.

Hopefully she heals up fast and can be ready to go for next year.

Christopher Morris 06-02-2015 11:07 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[url]http://www.crossfitregionalshowdown.com/leaderboards/men[/url] (wfs)

For Tighe and the other data geeks.

Every year somebody puts together a spreadsheet cross-comparing the Regionals.


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