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Aaron Trent 11-25-2007 11:26 AM

Arden Cogar on TV?
 
ESPN is showing the Stihl Timbersports right now and I am curious if our hometown lumberjack hero is going to get any airtime.

Michael Houghton 11-25-2007 11:40 AM

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They showed him about an hour ago in California. He took 2nd in his heat I believe.

Arden Cogar Jr. 11-25-2007 05:53 PM

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Thanks Everyone.

During the first round, I was 2nd in the springboard, 7th in the stock saw, 2nd in the standing block, 1st in the underhand, 2nd in the single buck and 3rd in the hot saw.

One of my better all around performances against a very strong field. Winning the underhand was quiet a feat in beating the best axeman in the world, David Bolstad. Those moments don't happen very often. Seize them when they do and enjoy them. I know I did.

The 2nd round of the series is next Sunday - December 2 starting at noon. I think I'm on the 1:00 p.m. show. The grand finals are airing on Decmeber 9 at noon.

Thanks for the interest. I gave it all I had and I hope to do even better next year.

Thanks to everyone for their help and guidance.

All the best,
Arden

Aushion Chatman 11-27-2007 10:57 AM

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Awesome Arden, have fun big guy.

Leonid Soubbotine 11-27-2007 01:05 PM

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Congrats! Any videos online of it?

Arden Cogar Jr. 11-27-2007 02:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonid Soubbotine (Post 220295)
Congrats! Any videos online of it?

Thanks so much!!!! I have lots of my training stuff on my youtube account (WVAxeman). As well as some of the contests from this past summer. Nothing from what was aired on this season's Timbersports Series. Yet......I don't know if I have the ability to do it at this stage. I'm learning.

All the best,
Arden

Tom Rawls 12-02-2007 03:12 PM

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Arden,

Caught some of the Timbersports today. My wife wandered by and I mentioned that one of the competitors posted on a forum I visited.

"Who?" she asked.

"Arden Cogar," I said.

"Arden, that would be a great name for a dog," she said. Don't misunderstand. Having a name worthy of a canine is big medicine.

The hot-saw competition had started up. "I can't believe I'm watching this," she commented, as though her life had taken a major wrong turn. "Do you think they practise that in their back yards?" she asked, as the big saws revved. "Their wives must hate them."

Hey, I was impressed. Cheers.

Tom

Arden Cogar Jr. 12-02-2007 04:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Rawls (Post 222766)
Arden,

Caught some of the Timbersports today. My wife wandered by and I mentioned that one of the competitors posted on a forum I visited.

"Who?" she asked.

"Arden Cogar," I said.

"Arden, that would be a great name for a dog," she said. Don't misunderstand. Having a name worthy of a canine is big medicine.

The hot-saw competition had started up. "I can't believe I'm watching this," she commented, as though her life had taken a major wrong turn. "Do you think they practise that in their back yards?" she asked, as the big saws revved. "Their wives must hate them."

Hey, I was impressed. Cheers.

Tom

Tom,
Cool stuff. My wife agrees, my name would be good for a dog. :shrug:

My wife says "once you've lived with the hotsaw sitting by the washer for six months, you're happy to see it running in the back yard."

But in all seriousness, she competes along side me. She won two world titles this past summer in only her third year of competition. She won the stock saw event at the Lumberjill World Championships. And she and I won the Jack & Jill Crosscut World Championsip at the Mountain State Forest Festival held in Elkins, West Virginia. I'm truly blessed.

Not only do we work out together, but we compete together. She however draws the line on working together. :eek: A little time apart does us wonders.

Thanks for the kind words.

All the best,
Arden

Tom Corrigan 12-02-2007 11:14 PM

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Great job, Arden! I was teaching a KB seminar today, but I can't wait to check out the vids when you get them on YouTube.

Take care,

Tom

Mike Gray 12-03-2007 12:42 AM

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I've seen a couple of Arden's older clips, and I'd love to see more competition stuff! Before running into him in this forum (and benefiting from his kindness and generosity), I didn't even know that lumberjacking had a sport-competition side to it. But watching Arden axe the living daylights out of a piece of wood was awesome - in fact, I ended up spending a fair bit of time surfing around to find out more about lumberjacking sports.

I must say, though - as somebody who doesn't have a CLUE about lumberjacking - that whereas I thought all the stuff that involved demolishing things with axes was uber-cool, the power saw events didn't do much for me. To my untutored eyes, they just looked like guys cutting things with chainsaws. (Obviously, this isn't really the case. I just don't tend to "get" any of the sports that involve non-biological motors.) In any case, nice for me that Arden seems to be particularly good at the bio-motor events!

Anyway, if the rest of people in the lumberjacking scene are even remotely like Arden, I just wish I could get my big-boned, broad-shouldered son into it.

Arden Cogar Jr. 12-03-2007 07:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Corrigan (Post 222935)
Great job, Arden! I was teaching a KB seminar today, but I can't wait to check out the vids when you get them on YouTube.

Take care,

Tom

Thanks Tom. The Timbersports Finals is airing nex Sunday (December 9) at noon EST. Thanks so much for your help and guidance.

All the best,
Arden

Arden Cogar Jr. 12-03-2007 07:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 222955)
I've seen a couple of Arden's older clips, and I'd love to see more competition stuff! Before running into him in this forum (and benefiting from his kindness and generosity), I didn't even know that lumberjacking had a sport-competition side to it. But watching Arden axe the living daylights out of a piece of wood was awesome - in fact, I ended up spending a fair bit of time surfing around to find out more about lumberjacking sports.

I must say, though - as somebody who doesn't have a CLUE about lumberjacking - that whereas I thought all the stuff that involved demolishing things with axes was uber-cool, the power saw events didn't do much for me. To my untutored eyes, they just looked like guys cutting things with chainsaws. (Obviously, this isn't really the case. I just don't tend to "get" any of the sports that involve non-biological motors.) In any case, nice for me that Arden seems to be particularly good at the bio-motor events!

Anyway, if the rest of people in the lumberjacking scene are even remotely like Arden, I just wish I could get my big-boned, broad-shouldered son into it.


Mike,
Thanks so much for your kind words. Just so you know, I agree with you on the chainsaws. They don't do it for me either. The hand or manual events are the one I enjoy. I particularly enjoy training for them because of the physical demands they put upon the body. Woodchopping and crosscut sawing are great fitness.

How old is your son? And where are you guys located? The reason I ask is that most Universities that have agricultural and forestry programs have Woodsmen's Teams that compete against other colleges in everything from woodchopping to kayak racing. I didn't really get keen on the sport until I was at WVU and training with folk my own age. Some of my fondest memories of the sport come from the years I was on the WVU Woodsmen's team competing against such colleges as Syracuse, Penn State, New Hampshire, Maine, Paul Smiths, Dartmouth, U of New Brunswick, Dabney, NC State, North Carolina, etc . It's a great way to get an athlete to get a chance to start into the sport without the heavy cost of the equipment (right off the bat). I know it provided the impetus for me. Who knows? We could have another champion in our midst?

All the best,
Arden

Dale F. Saran 12-03-2007 09:31 AM

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I hate to do this, but...

"Heeeee's a lumberjack and he's okay,
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BARBER:
I cut down trees. I eat my lunch.
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea.

MOUNTIES:
He cuts down trees. He eats his lunch.
He goes to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays he goes shopping
And has buttered scones for tea. :shrug:

He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BARBER:
I cut down trees. I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars." :eek:

Alright, just so I don't incur someone's wrath - my family are all Canucks and my grandfather, a little guy, was a lumberjack in his youth before coming to the States. He could split would faster than I could stack it.

I just couldn't help myself. ;)

Congratulations, Arden, on your peformance. Great stuff. :notworth:
Big Men doing Manly Things Outdoors. :)

Anthony Bainbridge 12-03-2007 09:52 AM

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Nice work Arden! I think it's awesome your wife competes as well!!

Mike Gray 12-03-2007 10:01 AM

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Quote:

How old is your son? And where are you guys located?
Heya!

Evan will celebrate his nineth birthday in twelve days, and we live just outside of Zürich in Switzerland. The kid's a couple inches taller than I was at his age and has shoulders about twice as broad. Totally unfair. He loves the outdoors and has a natural touch for animals - I've always thought he'd make a great vet or forester or some such, so who knows ...

But he loves (American) football and wants to play in the Swiss amature league, which - like all whacko amature sports nobody is ever dumb enough to think will make them a superstar - is cool too.

BTW, and speaking of genes and cool sports, my son got all the good genes from his mom's family. One of my wife's uncles was the Swiss "Swinger King" - a traditional Swiss sport callen Schwingen that involves two really big fellas (there's exactly one weight class) holding each other's trousers and trying to throw each other backfirst into the sawdust. The winner of the national title takes home a pedigree bull.

Mike Gray 12-03-2007 10:04 AM

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Say - is there a tune to go with that lumberjack song??

I tried singing it to "Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer," but it didn't quite fit ...

Arden Cogar Jr. 12-03-2007 01:06 PM

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thanks Dale and Anthony... I love that song. I have to. :)

Mike,
Search Stihl Europe. I believe they have a Timbersports Website. Timbersports is getting more popular in Europe. One of the Swiss athletes, Hermann Scholenbachler, placed 3rd in the world open this past year and made the semi final round in the Timbersports during 2006. European Timbersports is on the rise and they now host several events in Germany, Switzerland, France, and Spain. I also believe that Austria will host a few events next summer.

Stihl also hosts "training camps" for interested athletes in Europe and several of the Timbersports athletes travel to Europe to coach. I was approached this past Fall about being one of the coaches for the training camps. I'll need to brush up on my french and spanish, but I bet it will be a great trip.

If I learn of something in your area, I'll let you know.

Oh, and so you know, physical size helps with lumberjack sports, but it's not an absolute necessity. Several of the top athletes in my sport weigh less than 90 kilos. One weighs, I kid you not, 70 kilos. He's a weiry tough little guy from Tasmania by the name of Matthew Gurr. Unreal what that man can do with an axe. I've told several people it's very much similar to striking a golf ball - once you learn the proper body mechanics, a smaller man can drive a ball a heckuva lot further than a larger stronger man with poorer technique. If that makes any sense?

Someone ask me once who would be the easiest type of athlete to turn into a good lumberjack competitor. My answer was a decathlete. A person who has good athletism and a good body mechanics in throwing events. The hardest athlete to train to be a lumberjack - a baseball player. To much arm and shoulders in their swings and not enough torso and leg drive. A person who has thrown hammers, discus, and shot would be the easiest in my opinion. It's all about timing. Strength helps, but timing is more important. Further, good physical toughness is a necessity - all cross fitters, in my opinion, have an over abundance of toughness; crazy good fit and I love it.

All the best,
Arden

All the best,
Arden

George Mounce 12-03-2007 01:57 PM

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Awesome job Arden, you make me insanely jealous because you have that as a sport. I have always thought the event where you put in the stepping boards as you chop your way up to the top then chop the top off was the best. (Sorry I have no clue what the name of that even is :o).

Arden Cogar Jr. 12-03-2007 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by George Mounce (Post 223190)
Awesome job Arden, you make me insanely jealous because you have that as a sport. I have always thought the event where you put in the stepping boards as you chop your way up to the top then chop the top off was the best. (Sorry I have no clue what the name of that even is :o).

George,
It's called the springboard. And thanks so much for your kind comments.

The great thing about lumberjack sports is that it's for all ages and all those of interest. My 73 year old father still competes very well. We have different divisions of competition and some events are handicapped (with the better competitors giving less experienced competitors up to 30 to 40 second head starts). Some of the best in the sport didn't start until they were in the late 30s early 40s.

The only prohibition is the cost of equipment and obviously the cost of travel to events. Axes cost $400 and crosscut saws cost over $1200. You can get training gear much cheaper than that, but, to compete, you need top notch equipment and have some ability to work on it and repair it if the need arises. I'm rather lucky in that I grew up with the sport and my father already had most of the equipment and stands to train on. I've since replaced almost all the axes and saws, etc. But I have issues with lumberjack equipment similar to the issues I have with the equipment for my home gym. In less words, you can never have enough....right? :shrug:

All the best,
Arden

Andy Shirley 12-03-2007 04:42 PM

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Monty Python: Lumberjack Song

Original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg
Entire Sketch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Ly2XCE3jQ
Live Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clPYfaTvHT0

All links safe.

George Mounce 12-03-2007 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arden Cogar Jr. (Post 223201)
George,
It's called the springboard. And thanks so much for your kind comments.

The great thing about lumberjack sports is that it's for all ages and all those of interest. My 73 year old father still competes very well. We have different divisions of competition and some events are handicapped (with the better competitors giving less experienced competitors up to 30 to 40 second head starts). Some of the best in the sport didn't start until they were in the late 30s early 40s.

The only prohibition is the cost of equipment and obviously the cost of travel to events. Axes cost $400 and crosscut saws cost over $1200. You can get training gear much cheaper than that, but, to compete, you need top notch equipment and have some ability to work on it and repair it if the need arises. I'm rather lucky in that I grew up with the sport and my father already had most of the equipment and stands to train on. I've since replaced almost all the axes and saws, etc. But I have issues with lumberjack equipment similar to the issues I have with the equipment for my home gym. In less words, you can never have enough....right? :shrug:

All the best,
Arden

Interesting, I am definitely in need of a sport, but I'm not sure how much the neighbors would like me practicing :rofl:.

Arden Cogar Jr. 12-03-2007 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by George Mounce (Post 223290)
Interesting, I am definitely in need of a sport, but I'm not sure how much the neighbors would like me practicing :rofl:.


I lived in the city at one time and had a small back yard. I couldn't run my chainsaws back there, but I did have an audience when I chopped and sawed. At first, it struck up cool conversations; but you can imagine what happened after that. They pretty much thought I was nuts. But for anyone who actually witnesses someone do some of the xfit workouts, they would appreciate the nutsness.

One of the best axemen in the world, Pat Hooper, lived in urban Brisbane, Queensland. He didn't chop many logs, but he did set up tires and struck them with sledges weighing the same as our axes (6 to 7 pounds) with great frequency.

I get ya though. I'm glad I live in the country.

All the best,
Arden

Tom Rawls 12-09-2007 11:03 AM

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Arden,

Those Kiwis are some tough competitors.

Tell your wife you need some new tools to keep up with them. As you say, when in doubt, buy more equipment.

Well done.

Arden Cogar Jr. 12-09-2007 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Rawls (Post 225910)
Arden,

Those Kiwis are some tough competitors.

Tell your wife you need some new tools to keep up with them. As you say, when in doubt, buy more equipment.

Well done.


thank you so much. And yes, those three are really tough competitors. Actually all the athletes in that final are very very good.

I can always use that excuse to get some new tools. :-D Ya gotta have more tools. It's the manly way.

I hope to improve upon last year and be mindful to improve my weaknesses. I've got a whole list of things to work on right now. It won't be easy, but I'm game for it.

Thanks so much.

All the best,
Arden

Gary Maholm 01-10-2008 12:14 PM

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I'm so glad that i found this thread. When i first joined this forum I remember seeing a post by you, Arden, and thinking..."man that name sounds familiar..."

I pondered it a second and moved along without noticing your avatar. Its kind of small on my screen cause i crank up the res.

So then i was driving home thinking about how i was going to build my platform after perusing a couple threads; one being yours i believe about a 12' platform with cage. It hit me. Is that the guy i used to watch in the lumber jack stuff years ago? Then i found this thread.

I used to watch a long time ago when you and your dad were competing in the same event. I would catch the timber sports occasionally on espn and just thought it was cool as hell. I remember Jason Wynward (sp?) because he seemed to perform well, ALWAYS. And i remember you and your dad because I thought it was awesome that you guys had something competitive to work together on.

I'm 37 and i coulnt tell you when it was but its been quite a while. Seems like i was in my late teens but it could have been a little later. I had a few years of blur in there;)

I had two events that i loved to watch. The springboard thing. I was always affraid someone would lose grip and an axe would fly out into crowd :yikes: SERIOUS chopping!

Also, the one where you stand on a log and chop downward between the feet. Always made me nervous. you guys just swing sooooo hard.

Anyway, good to see that you are still competing. I'll be watching for you.

Arden Cogar Jr. 01-10-2008 01:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Maholm (Post 239424)
I'm so glad that i found this thread. When i first joined this forum I remember seeing a post by you, Arden, and thinking..."man that name sounds familiar..."

I pondered it a second and moved along without noticing your avatar. Its kind of small on my screen cause i crank up the res.

So then i was driving home thinking about how i was going to build my platform after perusing a couple threads; one being yours i believe about a 12' platform with cage. It hit me. Is that the guy i used to watch in the lumber jack stuff years ago? Then i found this thread.

I used to watch a long time ago when you and your dad were competing in the same event. I would catch the timber sports occasionally on espn and just thought it was cool as hell. I remember Jason Wynward (sp?) because he seemed to perform well, ALWAYS. And i remember you and your dad because I thought it was awesome that you guys had something competitive to work together on.

I'm 37 and i coulnt tell you when it was but its been quite a while. Seems like i was in my late teens but it could have been a little later. I had a few years of blur in there;)

I had two events that i loved to watch. The springboard thing. I was always affraid someone would lose grip and an axe would fly out into crowd :yikes: SERIOUS chopping!

Also, the one where you stand on a log and chop downward between the feet. Always made me nervous. you guys just swing sooooo hard.

Anyway, good to see that you are still competing. I'll be watching for you.


Gary,

Thanks so much for your kind words. Believe it or not, my 73 year old father still competes and gives all the young guys fits. He also competes in Masters (over 55) events and does very very well. You see me, you see him 35 years ago.

In the time frame you're talking about, Jason Wynyard was head and shoulders above the rest of the competition on the STS. Since that time, we have all narrowed the gap. He's still one of the men to beat, but everyone, including myself, has upped their game substantially to meet what he brought to the table.

I'll see if I can find some really cool youtube footage of my father, then attach a recent one of myself. We have the same "energy" and the same build. I'm just a little taller and I work out. He simply worked in the woods and did hard physical labor. Nothing better than hard work to make you fit.

Thanks again.

All the best,
Arden

Arden Cogar Jr. 01-10-2008 02:07 PM

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here's a video of my father competing against the #1 guy in the world, at the time, Jim Alexander, during 1979 at the Webster County Woodchopping Festival. Jim went about 6'4" about 325. My father was 5'7" about 200.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM28unGWyf8

Here's video of me competing against the current #1 person in my sport, David Bolstad, during the 2007 Stihl Timersports Series at Decatur, Alabama. David goes a good 6'5" about 270. I'm 5'11" a biscuit short of 260, but I was probably a biscuit over 265 at the time of this clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boFPCfBjG1c

Thanks again for remembering. I hope to pass the sport on to my daughters someday. My 10 year old competed at her first event last summer. She plans on doing more this summer. Maybe her 7 year old sister will join her.

All the best,
Arden

Gary Maholm 01-13-2008 01:07 PM

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those are great videos. thanks for posting. Cool to see how far the sport has come relative to spectatorship and the "stage".

Man you powered through that last chop.

thanks again


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