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Katherine Derbyshire 10-21-2009 02:26 PM

Re: paleo with hypoglycemia?
First, let's be clear on what kind of carbs we are talking about. A diet based on donuts and chocolate bars is not the same as one based on whole grains, veggies, and fruit. Most doctors recommend a diet rich in whole grains, veggies, and fruit for everyone, so your friend's doctor might have been upset with her for choosing to ignore that advice.

Many people feel sick if they radically change their diet. It's a big adjustment for the body. If you dump grains without replacing the calories, you can also put yourself into a pretty steep calorie deficit.

As for her doctor giving her bad advice... unless you have a medical degree yourself and have personally evaluated her condition, you probably aren't in a position to make that judgment.


Helen Lawson 10-22-2009 07:22 AM

Re: paleo with hypoglycemia?
No advice for your friend, but here is my story and i hope it will help:

I was severely hypoglycemic for years! I kept going to doctors trying to figure out what was wrong with me. They would tell me i was having a nervous breakdown: shaking, headaches, sweats, heart palpatations, etc...

Finally, i was at the point where i was gaining almost 5 lbs a week! I went to the store and bought a glucose blood thingy and when i was shaky i took my blood sugar measurement and it was about 25! I laughed when the documentation that came with the little machine said to go to the emergency room immediately if it was below 50.

I brought the machine with my results to my primary physician who is also a cardiologist. He told me to go on the atkins diet. I did and lost about 40 lbs in 3 months. During all of this i was doing the globo gym thing on & off. Finally i was too weak & skinny to stay on strict atkins. I went to a endochronologist (blood sugar doctor = where i suggest your friend goes) and he wanted to put me on drugs. I said no! I gradually started ramping up the carbs and found a point where i stopped losing weight and was able to gain just a little strength (globo style).

Now, I can still only eat about 15 grams of carbs at each meal. If i eat more than that my sugar crashes about 1/2 hour later. The exception is late at night...your body reacts differently to sugar when you are sleeping so i still eat my ice cream every night right before i go to bed...and many nights i have my carbs in the form of a glass of wine or 2. Also, it seems like the stronger I get (Crossfit style) the more sugar my body is capable of handling without freaking out.

I've talked to several cardiologists and endocronologists about the long term affects of little carb/sugar intake and they all say the same thing: That as long as you have about 50 grams of carbs a day (100 for men) you will be fine.

Laura Kurth 10-22-2009 07:41 AM

Re: paleo with hypoglycemia?
I'm curious why 50g for women and 100g for men are the numbers they throw out? My understanding was that the brain is the main "user" of carbohydrate, consuming in the region of 100 - 120 g per day, (regardless of gender?) so just wondering why they suggest men get this much, but not women.... ?

Just curious!

Jamie J. Skibicki 10-22-2009 08:09 AM

Re: paleo with hypoglycemia?
Men also burn more calories even when accounting for body mass. This could be the reason why. Also, men general weight much more.

Or more proof that the medical community typically has their heads up a pharmaceutical reps ***.

Brad Davis 10-22-2009 07:57 PM

Re: paleo with hypoglycemia?
I'm another former hypoglycemic (according to a MD) who seems to have been cured by spending a couple of years on TPD. Getting rid of all those starches and processed sugars really seems to do the trick. I've since added back about 4 slices of sprouted wheat bread per day and that doesn't seem to cause a problem. I feel well as long as I stay at roughly Zone proportions.

As for dietitian and MD nutrition advice, it is certainly a hit-and-miss proposition. Have you guys read what dietitians write on the internet, especially when it comes to managing diabetes and hypoglycemia?! Also, I've talked to 3 or 4 of our family's MDs over the last 2-3 years and I'm about half convinced that I know more about nutrition than all but one of them. They study such a broad range of topics in med school--perhaps they don't spend a large chunk of time on nutrition. Point being to not just bow down and assume that a person from either of these two groups knows more just because of formal education.

Helen Lawson 10-23-2009 05:22 PM

Re: paleo with hypoglycemia?

Originally Posted by Laura Kurth (Post 684025)
I'm curious why 50g for women and 100g for men are the numbers they throw out?

Yeah, its got to do with anticipated body mass and calorie burning. Same reason they say men get 2 glasses of red wine a day and women only get 1! :ranting2:

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