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Shane Bradbury 10-23-2007 08:35 AM

"Athletic Training"
 
I was wondering about the conventional 'advanced athletic training' you see in pro sports, sports camps, velocity training centres and so forth. The drills where players are standing on swiss balls throwing medicine balls back and forth, shuffling sideways through ladders, one legged medicine ball twists etc. So does this stuff work? I know most NHL teams train this way. I'm a hockey goaltender and was wondering if I should incorporate some of this in my CF routine, or is it useless?. Any feedback would be great, thanks guys.

-shane

Zac Stutts 10-23-2007 08:40 AM

Re: "Athletic Training"
 
it works but athletic conditioning is built on specificity within their sport and almost nothing else.. of course there is carryover but the main purpose is to get good at what they do.

and yes it works

Garrett Smith 10-23-2007 08:55 AM

Re: "Athletic Training"
 
The agility ladder is worth some time in your warm-up. Tyler Hass makes a nice one (he also makes the Elite Rings).

As for balancing on swiss balls, it doesn't have any carryover that I know of, nor should it. If you'd like to learn circus tricks like that, save it for your "rest" days. Otherwise forget about those.

Slide boards and Indo Boards are pieces that I like to improve lateral movement strength-endurance, balance, and coordination.

David Aguasca 10-23-2007 09:34 AM

Re: "Athletic Training"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrett Smith (Post 207400)
If you'd like to learn circus tricks like that, save it for your "rest" days. Otherwise forget about those.

...unless you're training to be in the circus ;)

Shane Bradbury 10-23-2007 10:39 AM

Re: "Athletic Training"
 
So besides a general warm up, are ladder drills good for an actual workout? My opinion would be no, but you see otherwise all the time. I forgot about Slide boards and Indo Boards, these are great, like you said for improving coordination and balance.

Garrett Smith 10-23-2007 11:09 AM

Re: "Athletic Training"
 
David,
You're absolutely right. My bad. :D I must still be a little bitter that Cirque du Soleil didn't hire me as a strength coach when I applied. Oh well, their loss. :shrug:

As for "working out" on the agility ladder, I'd say not. Do the specific agility drills when you are relatively fresh, to best train the nervous system. Putting them in the warm-up allows one to be fresh and train their agility in a relatively "cold" state--which is likely when your agility will be called upon in real life. IMHO.

One can absolutely do a workout on a slide board. Punishing on the legs.

As for the Indo Board, I like it as active rest. I do Coach Davies' 10-minute workout on it (evenly split among balance/rocking/squat position/surf stance rocking). It might also be good as active rest in a WOD with set rest periods (obviously not "As Rx'd").

Craig Takahiro Descoteaux 10-23-2007 11:41 AM

Re: "Athletic Training"
 
If you can find a sport specific facility for yur sport then the anseer is yes.
Coming from a franchise sport facility as a coach and director I can see the improvements of various equipment.

For cost effectiveness: ladders, reaction balls, mini hurdles, harness, cones.
If you had the means: slideboards, oly. weights, indoor facility for sport specific.

Stability ball exercises can work a lot of balance and core strength.

And i just came back from Vegas, those actors at Le Reve have extreme core strength. Nothing to joke about those guys and girls.


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