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[QUOTE=Steven Ngo;1255117]some really angry comments about the missing coverage of the relay event (see the relay event highlights video page).

it was probably just some technical difficulties; and comments like:

"That highlight sucked! Worst coverage of the games this year!"

makes me :rofl: and think back to the days when you had to trawl youtube for shaky cam footage filmed with a potato just to get a glimpse of the events.

now, if they start charging for these live streams, then i could understand expecting perfection (or at least your money's worth). As it stands, it's pretty frickn' awesome compared to what "worst coverage" used to be.[/QUOTE]

"...filmed with a potato..." has to win the funniest line of the thread award or there should be an investigation. :)

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[QUOTE=Tim Alford;1255255]Something happened to Miranda's knee I believe. It was while she was doing thr 1RM clean and jerk event. Nothing gruesome but she's out.

Rich and Co. will definitely have stronger girls next year![/QUOTE]

I saw an interview with her on the soccer stadium jumbotron, I believe she said she suffered a full ACL tear.

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[QUOTE=Jason A Smith;1255315]

As far as the teams go........well Castro succeeded in dreaming up a scenario in which Rich won, would have been way more interesting had Norcal not got hurt. Making 300 points up in solo events in a team competition is a joke.

I also question whether Rich and James Hobart spent 50% of their time training at Crossfit Mayhem, my guess no offing way, should that not disqualify them or do those rules only apply in certain circumstances ?[/QUOTE]

i am a huge Froning fan and i also love Hobart but yes, this i agree with. the whole thing just reeked of favoritism. making so many points in solo events for team competition ensured that Froning had an advantage since their guys are the strongest on the field while their girls are not quite there.

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Fun final day ! happy with Ben Smith and the woman's winner


Each year people come from nowhere to be competitive in the games with only a 'year' of crossfitting

This shows one thing. Crossfit isn't the method , it's the test. People from various sporting backgrounds need to learn the crossfit movements but have gained strength and conditioning from their training for whatever sport they have been involved in

Each year the competitors get better and better. We are still quite far away from the very best potential athletes competing. We have 'semi' pro rugby players and college this and college that. Basically a ton of great athletes who weren't quite good enough to go pro in other sports

The year that a 17 year old athletic phenom consciously chooses a career in crossfit over a career in the NFL/NBA/track and frield etc etc is when the winner of the crossfit games really can come close to be called fittest on earth.

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so the big question is

Would Rich have won again this year ?

I think not

And why did Camille drop off so much ? champion to not even Top 10

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[QUOTE=Desmond Pegrum;1255322]so the big question is

Would Rich have won again this year ?

I think not

And why did Camille drop off so much ? champion to not even Top 10[/QUOTE]


i actually think he would have.

1) he looked great while on team
2) he already competed against all the top guys from this year and beat them before.
3) a lot of the workouts this year were right in his wheel house and with all the running he did this year, even that wouldn't be an issue.
4) he could have won the C&J, Sandbag, Heavy DT and place very high in pretty much all the rest of the events other than maybe the last events.

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[QUOTE=Jason A Smith;1255315]

As far as the teams go........well Castro succeeded in dreaming up a scenario in which Rich won, would have been way more interesting had Norcal not got hurt. Making 300 points up in solo events in a team competition is a joke.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Snir Golan;1255319]i am a huge Froning fan and i also love Hobart but yes, this i agree with. the whole thing just reeked of favoritism. making so many points in solo events for team competition ensured that Froning had an advantage since their guys are the strongest on the field while their girls are not quite there.[/QUOTE]

I have seen a lot of people making a similar comment, I tend to disagree. Going into the games I didn't think Mayhem would be top 10 by the end of the weekend. The solo events should be another way to expose your weakest link/links, all of their men got first (clearly more than Rich, not that you guys are claiming it was only him) but a more balanced team should be able to get more points. There individual girls did get a 3rd and 5th on that one, with that said having only 10 teams helps if you score lower.

If he really wanted to help their team he could have had some workouts where you can divide the work as you would like and their is no work requirement. I was impressed with them on the last few days.

Overall, I think all the races individual and team were fun to watch because they were very competitive and a lot of surprises out there. Very impressed by many of the rookies and individuals that have only been focusing on CrossFit for a few years.

*Edit, random note, going into the final event the announcers made it sound like Mayhem was down a point or two, when in reality I think they were down 20, curious if the teams had any idea of this because if Milford could have got a place or two higher they would have sealed the deal. Watching it live I thought it was pretty much winner take all between the two teams.

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[QUOTE=Jayme Gruber;1255327]
What is the point of having an alternate on your team if they can't step in when an athlete goes down? I'm sure they'd be worried teams would sub people in and out to work strengths but that could be easily solved. Only let someone sub in if a doctor rules a teammate can't medically continue and they're not allowed to sub back in later, they're done.[/QUOTE]

Getting a fresh athlete would be a huge advantage, having a doctor check them out like you said would be the only way I could see it possibly working.

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[QUOTE=Cory House;1255324]
*Edit, random note, going into the final event the announcers made it sound like Mayhem was down a point or two, when in reality I think they were down 20, curious if the teams had any idea of this because if Milford could have got a place or two higher they would have sealed the deal. Watching it live I thought it was pretty much winner take all between the two teams.[/QUOTE]

This! At the time of the final event, the leaderboard showed Mayhem behind by 1 point to Milford. However, these scores did NOT reflect the last 3 events. Once tallied, Mayhem was behind by 15, not 1. So instead of needing to "just" beat Milford, they needed to beat them by enough. Luckily, they did, gaining 20 points in the last event to win by 5.

This could have been really, really, messy.

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[QUOTE=John Drohan;1255325]

This could have been really, really, messy.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking this as I was watching, how horrible would it be to think you won and then be told sorry the score board was wrong.

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Really disappointed by those finals. The pegboard is just kinda dumb, and to showcase the Games to the world and then show "The fittest women on Earth" basically staring at a wall for 6 minutes was a letdown. And rowing/airdyne is not spectator friendly.

What is the point of having an alternate on your team if they can't step in when an athlete goes down? I'm sure they'd be worried teams would sub people in and out to work strengths but that could be easily solved. Only let someone sub in if a doctor rules a teammate can't medically continue and they're not allowed to sub back in later, they're done.

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Would you rather have a final event that is just another event, and the athletes slug it out more or less in the same ranking, or...

an event that exposes weaknesses that blows away some athletes while a few figure it out and get a huge advantage.

I can see pros and cons either way, but that's what the pegboard did.

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1254698]I hear ya. I had the same concerns about athlete injuries and risk to those nearby when the speed snatch ladder was announced.

However, the speed clean ladder raised the same concerns in my mind without major mishap last year.

It should be interesting to see if the snatch event can run smoothly and safely.[/QUOTE]

No major injuries during the snatch speed ladder this year. Neal Maddox dropped a barbell on his head, laid down for about a minute, walked it off, and then completed a good rep. Otherwise, I didn't see any catastrophe (though I didn't watch every heat). Did anyone else see problems on the snatch speed ladder?

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[QUOTE=Cory House;1255329]I was thinking this as I was watching, how horrible would it be to think you won and then be told sorry the score board was wrong.[/QUOTE]

This ^^

It seemed like the scoreboard was wrong half the weekend. People dropping points and picking them up, it was very confusing from my viewpoint. I'm extremely glad that Ben Smith won and I am a huge Rich Froning fan so that was story book for me. But relying on the "announcers" or the scoreboard was a crapshoot. Definitely need to work on that.

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Did you notice the scoring spread was different this year?

Instead of 100, 95, 90, etc. (five point spread), it was 100, 94, 88, 84, 80, etc. (six point spread for first three finishers, then four point spread for 4-10th place, then two point spread for everyone else).

Maybe this explains scoring errors through the weekend?

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[QUOTE=Desmond Pegrum;1255321]
Each year the competitors get better and better. We are still quite far away from the very best potential athletes competing. We have 'semi' pro rugby players and college this and college that. Basically a ton of great athletes who weren't quite good enough to go pro in other sports

The year that a 17 year old athletic phenom consciously chooses a career in crossfit over a career in the NFL/NBA/track and frield etc etc is when the winner of the crossfit games really can come close to be called fittest on earth.[/QUOTE]

Brooke Wells passed on a college track scholarship to focus on CrossFit. Your idea is on the horizon...

[url]http://games.crossfit.com/article/top-priority[/url] (wfs)

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[QUOTE=Steven Ngo;1255262]Saturday final:

TRIANGLE COUPLET

15-10-6 reps for time of:
Thrusters (165 / 115 lb.)
Bar muscle-ups

Time cap: 10 minutes


What does that have to do with "triangle"?[/QUOTE]
Rory articulated this in between heats. The rep scheme is how you "stack" a triangle. Picture billiard balls in the rack, starting from the top down:

First three rows, 1 + 2 + 3 = 6
Next row is four balls = 10
Next rows is five balls = 15

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[QUOTE=Jason Fischer;1255309]Well, I'm glad I didn't have any money on the games this year. 0/6 predictions came true. (0/9 if you count the teams). Super happy to see Ben take the games though. It's been a long time coming.[/QUOTE]

Armchair CrossFitters unite!

I went back and scored those of us who gave predictions. I gave one point for each correct athlete in the top three. I gave five points for correct placement of each athlete (though none of us guessed correct placement for any athlete).

[B][U]3 points[/U][/B]
Mario Beltran (Guessed Fraser, Smith and Sara Sigmundsdottir)
Jayme Gruber (Guessed Fraser, Smith and Sigmundsdottir)

[B][U]2 points[/U][/B]
Jon Campbell
Michael Cook
Ludovic Deguy
Troy Kennedy

[B][I]1 point[/I][/B]
Jason Fischer
Chris Morris
Miles Roberts

Nobody guessed Tia-Clair Toomey. Who would guess a rookie? In CrossFit competition, we've got to give them some more credit.

The Europeans are doing well this year in competition.

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1255334]No major injuries during the snatch speed ladder this year. Neal Maddox dropped a barbell on his head, laid down for about a minute, walked it off, and then completed a good rep. Otherwise, I didn't see any catastrophe (though I didn't watch every heat). Did anyone else see problems on the snatch speed ladder?[/QUOTE]

Did you mean Elija Muhammad (sp)? If you did mean Maddox then that means this actually happened twice

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[QUOTE=Desmond Pegrum;1255322]And why did Camille drop off so much ? champion to not even Top 10[/QUOTE]

I would say it's because she isn't well rounded enough and there wasn't much that fit her wheelhouse. I mean did individuals use the rings at all this year?

My question is what would have the outcome been (particularly for the women) if they decided to do Murph at a safe time of the day instead of the hottest part of the day. Seemed like lots of the women were suffering from that all weekend.

Also, I think it the future, they should have a drink station on the stadium run. I get that it's not a terribly long run, but when you are doing it a bunch of times and if it was as hot as they say it was, it seems like they should be doing everything they can to ensure the safety and highest performance possible by these athletes instead of having to carry them off on stretchers.

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[QUOTE=Cory House;1255324]

*Edit, random note, going into the final event the announcers made it sound like Mayhem was down a point or two, when in reality I think they were down 20, curious if the teams had any idea of this because if Milford could have got a place or two higher they would have sealed the deal. Watching it live I thought it was pretty much winner take all between the two teams.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the exact same thing. I realize it should be 100% till the end, but if you think the only competition is Mayhem, and Mayhem pulls ahead it can be debilitating. I think I counted 4 no reps for Milford after Mayhem was clearly in front. Turns out Milford just needed to finish 1 place higher. It is what it is, but if you want to make for more exciting television it should be made clear what has to happen. How dissapointed would Mayhem have been if Milford came in 7th in that final event and found out later on that Milford won the whole thing?

Anyways - congrats to Milford, they were awesome all weekend. I was proud to cheer for my home state and some fellow Eastern CT alums.

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Interesting games this year. I think it was more "who could survive". Glad to see Ben Smith win, but would rather Matty won since he is a Nike guy. I have NO problem seeing Katrin win since she is a very gifted athlete, and from Iceland (I like Iceland girls).

As for the controversy of the peg board.... I don't think it was great to have it in the final, too much attention for the outcome of people standing and looking at it on live TV. Maybe earlier in the weekend, sure, good workout. Obviously Dave didn't count on people just blowing it off completely. I know I wouldn't have either though.

Murph may have been a bit much with the heat apparently, but dang it was interesting wasn't it?

I'm kind of over the ocean thing honestly. I get the fitness aspect of it, but A) it's predictable now, and B) there are plenty of other ways to test fitness also.

Fan voting for Double DT or Heavy DT. Brilliant. Either way, GREAT wod, way to get the fans involved.

Triangle Couplet, good but I think maybe after Heavy DT, they should have lightened it up and made a good old fashion sprint wod like Fran, less than 5 minutes, and just all out the whole time. Mind you this coming from a guy who LOVES heavy wods.

Midline Madness, love it. Maybe next time do farmer carries instead, or worked in with it. Maybe my favorite event next to the 1RM c&j.

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Also (maybe, but not necessarily related to my previous post), there was carnage at the games this year.

4 men withdrew (Kevin Simons, Joe Scali, Neil Maddox and Chad McKay)
3 women (Annie T, Maddy Myers, Dani Horan athough she didn't start)
1 team (I think Norcal had the only injury, but correct me if I'm wrong)

Do you think Castro and/or other Games planners will take those injuries into consideration for next year or will events keep getting heavier, longer, hotter, etc?

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[QUOTE=Jason Fischer;1255344]I would say it's because she isn't well rounded enough and there wasn't much that fit her wheelhouse. I mean did individuals use the rings at all this year?

My question is what would have the outcome been (particularly for the women) if they decided to do Murph at a safe time of the day instead of the hottest part of the day. Seemed like lots of the women were suffering from that all weekend.

Also, I think it the future, they should have a drink station on the stadium run. I get that it's not a terribly long run, but when you are doing it a bunch of times and if it was as hot as they say it was, it seems like they should be doing everything they can to ensure the safety and highest performance possible by these athletes instead of having to carry them off on stretchers.[/QUOTE]

Drink station = agree 100%

[QUOTE=Jason Fischer;1255346]Also (maybe, but not necessarily related to my previous post), there was carnage at the games this year.

4 men withdrew (Kevin Simons, Joe Scali, Neil Maddox and Chad McKay)
3 women (Annie T, Maddy Myers, Dani Horan athough she didn't start)
1 team (I think Norcal had the only injury, but correct me if I'm wrong)

Do you think Castro and/or other Games planners will take those injuries into consideration for next year or will events keep getting heavier, longer, hotter, etc?[/QUOTE]

Without a doubt they will. They take feedback after every year. I can promise you they are already thinking up workouts for next year, and how it will play out.

It did seem like Survivor: Crossfit Edition this year.

Interesting post this morning on redit, [U]mostly[/U] wfs except for some language:
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/crossfit/comments/3eqxwr/insiders_opinion_on_2015_games/[/url]

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Double post. Please delete. Sorry.

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[QUOTE=Alex Romero;1255343]Did you mean Elija Muhammad (sp)? If you did mean Maddox then that means this actually happened twice[/QUOTE]

I didn't see Elijah Muhammad's heat, but Maddox also dropped the bar on his head. You don't see Maddox's failed rep during the heat, but they showed it in replay after the heat was over.

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[QUOTE=Lance Bremer;1255350]There was a drink station on the murph run. They were handing water bottles to people as they started the run, and then there was a table with water just before the turnaround.[/QUOTE]

For sure they did, but I'm thinking they should have one in the soccer arena runs, particularly when they are doing multiple 600m runs in an event in the middle of the afternoon.

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There was a drink station on the murph run. They were handing water bottles to people as they started the run, and then there was a table with water just before the turnaround.

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1255339]Armchair CrossFitters unite!

I went back and scored those of us who gave predictions. I gave one point for each correct athlete in the top three. I gave five points for correct placement of each athlete (though none of us guessed correct placement for any athlete).

[B][U]3 points[/U][/B]
Mario Beltran (Guessed Fraser, Smith and Sara Sigmundsdottir)
Jayme Gruber (Guessed Fraser, Smith and Sigmundsdottir)

[B][U]2 points[/U][/B]
Jon Campbell
Michael Cook
Ludovic Deguy
Troy Kennedy

[B][I]1 point[/I][/B]
Jason Fischer
Chris Morris
Miles Roberts

Nobody guessed Tia-Clair Toomey. Who would guess a rookie? In CrossFit competition, we've got to give them some more credit.

The Europeans are doing well this year in competition.[/QUOTE]
I had Mayhem and Ute as well, give me all the points!

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At first I was not too pleased with the final workout between the individuals. Then I saw what it did to the leader board and turned it exciting.. people going from 10th to 4th or something like that.

The masters final was not my cup of tea.. they kept out some of the things that separate people like HSPU, HS Walks, T2B, Pistols.. etc..

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1255334]No major injuries during the snatch speed ladder this year. Neal Maddox dropped a barbell on his head, laid down for about a minute, walked it off, and then completed a good rep. Otherwise, I didn't see any catastrophe (though I didn't watch every heat). Did anyone else see problems on the snatch speed ladder?[/QUOTE]

That wasn't Neal Maddox :rofl: That was Elijah Muhammad "EZ". He will be a great candidate for the Spirit of the Games Award in the coming years.


I loved the sprint course. SO awesome to see the athletes blaze through it.

My thoughts on the peg board (which doesn't add up to a hill of beans): I liked it. I agree with the general consensus that PTTM 1 & 2 should've been done earlier in the competition since it was a great test of skill, just very anticlimactic to watch...

Will the games ever be held somewhere else in July? Canada, Iceland, southern hemisphere Africa, or another cooler area? Fitness doesn't have to be tested in heat, fitness can be tested indoors in an arena or in the A/C also from my understanding. Since it is an international competition I would love to see it held somewhere else soon.

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[QUOTE=Jayme Gruber;1255353]I had Mayhem and Ute as well, give me all the points![/QUOTE]

Sorry, there were only a couple of us who guessed on the teams. I cannot award you any additional made up points.

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[QUOTE=David Narens;1255356]That wasn't Neal Maddox :rofl: That was Elijah Muhammad "EZ". He will be a great candidate for the Spirit of the Games Award in the coming years.
[/QUOTE]

You're right. My mistake. I went back and watched Neal's heats, and he didn't drop the bar.

So - only one mishap during the speed ladder then?

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I'm happy Ben won. I think Rich would have schooled everyone again if he would have gone individual. I think he'd have smartly paced (gone really slow) Murph, and crushed everyone on Sunday (just like last year).

I think if Kara Webb would have employed a similar strategy, she had a legit chance of winning.

Overall though, great Games. Well done, all folks involved.

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[QUOTE=Jason Fischer;1255346] 1 team (I think Norcal had the only injury, but correct me if I'm wrong)[/QUOTE]

I don't remember who it was, but there was another team who only had two athletes on the back end of the tire flip chipper. They didn't make it into the final events, so they never got to the point where they wouldn't be able to post a valid score and get forced to withdraw, the way NorCal was.

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I thoroughly enjoyed watching the Masters. They are a wonderful people from watching the interviews they did and I was impressed with what they could do psychically. Hats off to them!

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[QUOTE=Christopher G. Woods;1255366]I don't remember who it was, but there was another team who only had two athletes on the back end of the tire flip chipper. They didn't make it into the final events, so they never got to the point where they wouldn't be able to post a valid score and get forced to withdraw, the way NorCal was.[/QUOTE]

I kind of thought that was the case, but couldn't place them, but to be fair, I was mostly only paying attention to the heats with the big names (NorCal, Mayhem, Ute, Invictus, etc.)

Speaking of teams, whether it was because of the big names (Froning, Khalipa, Hackenbruck, Fisher, etc) competing in the team events or because the events were just programmed better (probably both), I definitely had an interest in the team competition this year. In previous years I couldn't be bothered to watch them, but this year I enjoyed it almost as much as the individual competition.

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[QUOTE=David Narens;1255368]I thoroughly enjoyed watching the Masters. They are a wonderful people from watching the interviews they did and I was impressed with what they could do psychically. Hats off to them![/QUOTE]

That one guy, who crushed the Tarot Card reading event was amazing! :) :) :)

Excuse my joke at the expense of your typo please.

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[QUOTE=Jason Fischer;1255367]Speaking of teams, whether it was because of the big names (Froning, Khalipa, Hackenbruck, Fisher, etc) competing in the team events or because the events were just programmed better (probably both), I definitely had an interest in the team competition this year. In previous years I couldn't be bothered to watch them, but this year I enjoyed it almost as much as the individual competition.[/QUOTE]

The team events have always been great, though there are times when I get a little sick of the "how many ways can we use the worm?" factor. They used to be hard to watch, because they would run at the same time as some of the individual events, so you would have to either choose to watch them instead of the individuals, or take the time to go watch them in the archives, after the fact. They've started to get a lot more attention in the past few years, fueled in part by the need to compete with the NPGL, along with the fact that local events are starting to shift more toward teams than individuals.