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Steven Thunander 03-08-2015 04:17 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Alex Burden;1249960]Watching the announcement from Dave Castro he was clear.. this will separate those that should be at the top of the leaderboard and those who should not and where they should be.

Quite fair I would say now after hearing that.[/QUOTE]

These tests are also great for figuring out who are the novice, intermediate, advanced, elite, and Games level athletes (notice 5 RXed levels!)
Take the bell curve from individuals competing RXed and slice it like this:
Novice: bottom 30% of those competing at rxed (highest score at end)
Intermediate: 31-70%
Advanced: 71-95%
Elite: 96-98%
Games level: 99-100% (lowest score at end)
Beginner/novice: May be doing this to score higher than those in scaled. May only be able to get a few reps of RXed, but does it anyway to have something to work toward next year.
Intermediate: Yes, intermediate is 40% of the total scores! This demonstrates proficiency in most movements, and competence in some of the more skilled and strength biased moves but also shows that work needs to be done in all areas.
Advanced: Proficient in all movements. Strong as hell with a great engine. But not enough to be part of an affiliate team that has a shot a regionals. Strong at local competitions.
Elite: Same as above but with that added edge. A group of these folks could possibly compete for an affiliate team slot at regionals. Your local box hero. These would make up those under top 60 in their regions. This person is a star at local competitions and could make it into wodapalooza or Granite Games, for example.
Games athlete: Very few weaknesses apparent to outsiders. A group of these would go to regionals as part of a team. Has best shot at regionals. Engine and strength unmatched by those in their gym and gyms in the locality (unless they are in Socal or Norcal). Top 60 CFers in their region.

Scaled levels: Beginner, intermediate, novice.

Pretty much everyone in the advanced level and below in RXed and those doing this scaled are doing it for fun and as benchmarks. Even the elites are doing this one for fun, but are more so doing this for their box (many of the competitors at this level are coaches). Only the Games level competitors are doing this for a slot into the CrossFit games.

Tighe Crovetti 03-08-2015 07:09 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Alex Burden;1249997]Got it :)

So what group does someone end up in if they mix both scaled and Rx?

I went scaled for the 15.1 and Rx 15.2 and now I can see myself in the Rx group or does this depend on your last choice?[/QUOTE]
There really isn't "Rx" and "scaled" groups. Everyone is still in one group, it's just that the scaled wods let you still do a standardized Open workout and stay in the mix, with your rank in the overall population affected appropriately (i.e., any time you do scaled, you will, de facto, rank below anyone who did it Rx). Like someone said, I think that filter on the leaderboard just depends on whether you've done all wods Rx or not.

Alex Burden 03-09-2015 01:09 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Tighe Crovetti;1250047]There really isn't "Rx" and "scaled" groups. Everyone is still in one group, it's just that the scaled wods let you still do a standardized Open workout and stay in the mix, with your rank in the overall population affected appropriately (i.e., any time you do scaled, you will, de facto, rank below anyone who did it Rx). Like someone said, I think that filter on the leaderboard just depends on whether you've done all wods Rx or not.[/QUOTE]

I did 15.1 scaled and 15.2 Rx and I can find myself in the Rx leaderboard but not in the scaled when using the filter. I thought if you did 1 of the WODs in scaled you would remain in the scaled division for the remainder of The Open.

Alex Burden 03-09-2015 02:46 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Steven Thunander;1250044]These tests are also great for figuring out who are the novice, intermediate, advanced, elite, and Games level athletes (notice 5 RXed levels!)
Take the bell curve from individuals competing RXed and slice it like this:
Novice: bottom 30% of those competing at rxed (highest score at end)
Intermediate: 31-70%
Advanced: 71-95%
Elite: 96-98%
Games level: 99-100% (lowest score at end)
Beginner/novice: May be doing this to score higher than those in scaled. May only be able to get a few reps of RXed, but does it anyway to have something to work toward next year.
Intermediate: Yes, intermediate is 40% of the total scores! This demonstrates proficiency in most movements, and competence in some of the more skilled and strength biased moves but also shows that work needs to be done in all areas.
Advanced: Proficient in all movements. Strong as hell with a great engine. But not enough to be part of an affiliate team that has a shot a regionals. Strong at local competitions.
Elite: Same as above but with that added edge. A group of these folks could possibly compete for an affiliate team slot at regionals. Your local box hero. These would make up those under top 60 in their regions. This person is a star at local competitions and could make it into wodapalooza or Granite Games, for example.
Games athlete: Very few weaknesses apparent to outsiders. A group of these would go to regionals as part of a team. Has best shot at regionals. Engine and strength unmatched by those in their gym and gyms in the locality (unless they are in Socal or Norcal). Top 60 CFers in their region.

Scaled levels: Beginner, intermediate, novice.

Pretty much everyone in the advanced level and below in RXed and those doing this scaled are doing it for fun and as benchmarks. Even the elites are doing this one for fun, but are more so doing this for their box (many of the competitors at this level are coaches). Only the Games level competitors are doing this for a slot into the CrossFit games.[/QUOTE]

Agree - plus it all depends on the individuals goal.. it is getting as high up on the list as possible or performing as well as possible?

Going scaled as you say and getting a high score or RX and getting just a few reps.

Nicholas Wheeler 03-09-2015 07:35 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Has anyone made a custom leaderboard of the games athletes from last year? Or just all the big names in general - so still include Briggs/Valenzuela/Hendren/etc.

Michael Cook 03-09-2015 08:30 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Here is my prediction for 15.3:

For time:
21-15-9-6-3
Deadlift 225/185
Box jump 24/20
HSPU

Miles Roberts 03-09-2015 08:37 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Michael Cook;1250064]Here is my prediction for 15.3:

For time:
21-15-9-6-3
Deadlift 225/185
Box jump 24/20
HSPU[/QUOTE]

I dig it. I doubt it, but I dig it. If it were that workout though, it would probably be 225/155.

Drew Cloutier 03-09-2015 08:46 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Some surprises some not so much surprises.

big surprise seeing another young Canadian female come out and put up such a huge score in 15.1/15.1a topping even Camille, another surprise is seeing Camille not C&J oaver 230lbs.

Another surprise is how low Paul Tremblay finished in 15.1/15.1a i mean I expected the big C&J but thought he'd have more in 15.1.

a NOT so surprising thing, how Sam Briggs still has a big engine, but lacking in strength (15.1a) I don't know if its that she needs to squat more and make her stick legs grow or something but she needs to shore up some weaknesses in her game.

I also think its interesting to see who's brought up what weakness during the "offseason" by way of their results in workouts. example Noah Ohlsen is doing really well in all the longer workouts/engine based ones, any of the heavier stuff he falls by the wayside.

Alex Burden 03-09-2015 08:49 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Michael Cook;1250064]Here is my prediction for 15.3:

For time:
21-15-9-6-3
Deadlift 225/185
Box jump 24/20
HSPU[/QUOTE]

C2 rower and Du's and Box jumps

Have there ever been KB swings in the open?

Tighe Crovetti 03-09-2015 09:35 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Drew Cloutier;1250073]a NOT so surprising thing, how Sam Briggs still has a big engine, but lacking in strength (15.1a) I don't know if its that she needs to squat more and make her stick legs grow or something but she needs to shore up some weaknesses in her game.[/QUOTE]
I have it on good info she had some kind of (minor) injury holding her back on 15.1a.

We've had two wods that both included hanging from a bar and a barbell. I say 15.3 has neither. Straight up burner, I think, some or all of: doubles, burpees, wall balls, box jumps.


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