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Victor J McQuaide 04-18-2017 10:03 AM

Re: 2017 CrossFit Open, Regionals and Games Thread
 
At this time we can conclude that he's nothing as prescribed. All the dots lead to cheating. Watched some of his instagram videos of him doing one rep of something then saying that was 1 of 50 reps.. hard to believe coming out of a 44 year old.

Alex Burden 04-19-2017 12:06 AM

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This is going to be like a grey cloud over his head for ever within CF...

[B]Once a cheater always a cheater[/B].... i have no respect for people like this!

Jason A Smith 04-24-2017 04:38 PM

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I posted on his IG account that he should have put up legit real videos of him doing the actual online qualifier WODs to put himself out there. Maybe the reality is that he really cannot do CF ? At any rate I have no idea what the deal is with him nor do I care. One of buddies here locally was sitting in 44th after the Open I wanna see how close he gets. I figure if I can get healthy for 2018 I might be able to crack top 100 worldwide (40-44)

Christopher Morris 04-26-2017 09:29 AM

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Interesting thing I noticed about athletes on the bubble....

I follow Nick Fory's progress, as I used to work out at his gym. In the Central East region, he did not qualify for Regionals. He placed 22nd, and the cut off is 20 spots. However, in the combined regional he has accepted his invite to Regionals. Is this because scores are compared to other regions and he outperformed top 20 men in other regions? Or is it because some of the top 40 accepted team spots, opening spots for more individual competitors?

There are 47 men listed for the Central Regionals. Six have are competing with a team, one declined, leaving 40 for individual competition.

Graham Holmberg is in the same boat - didn't qualify in his region alone (24th place), but with a combined Regionals, he'll be in the competition.

I'm seeing a lot of new names ranking very well in every region.

Brad Gerbrandt 04-26-2017 10:15 AM

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Out of the Central Region, 6 went team and 1 declined. So they asked 7 more. Holmberg was 1 of those 7.

Not sure what happened to the 23rd guy from North Central. Maybe they he declined or went team and they didn't bother putting him on the leaderboard.

Jon Campbell 04-28-2017 07:22 PM

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1268074]Interesting thing I noticed about athletes on the bubble....

I follow Nick Fory's progress, as I used to work out at his gym. In the Central East region, he did not qualify for Regionals. He placed 22nd, and the cut off is 20 spots. However, in the combined regional he has accepted his invite to Regionals. Is this because scores are compared to other regions and he outperformed top 20 men in other regions? Or is it because some of the top 40 accepted team spots, opening spots for more individual competitors?

There are 47 men listed for the Central Regionals. Six have are competing with a team, one declined, leaving 40 for individual competition.

Graham Holmberg is in the same boat - didn't qualify in his region alone (24th place), but with a combined Regionals, he'll be in the competition.

I'm seeing a lot of new names ranking very well in every region.[/QUOTE]
Because some went team. All 3 of Mayhems guys qualified top 20 but obviously declined to go team. When someone declines or declares team they invite the next person on the list

Matthew Nichols 05-01-2017 04:10 AM

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Anyone know been through the process to get your 1 free affiliate owner ticket into regionals?

I don't want to drive all the way there and not have a ticket waiting...

Kyle Feliberty 05-01-2017 11:20 AM

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[QUOTE=Matthew Nichols;1268130]Anyone know been through the process to get your 1 free affiliate owner ticket into regionals?

I don't want to drive all the way there and not have a ticket waiting...[/QUOTE]

Yup, did it last year. Easy as pie. It'll be there. Bring ID.

Victor J McQuaide 05-08-2017 04:40 PM

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How do you feel about the first 2 regional workouts?

[url]https://games.crossfit.com/workouts/regionals/2017[/url]

Kinda long on #1.

All out blitz on #2 and will bet semi heavy for these guys and gals with the 80/55#.

Will be cool to watch them go at it.

Alex Burden 05-09-2017 12:21 AM

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I think Castro is setting the level from the go.... i also think this is the easiest day as day 1 they are fresh and raring to go.

It is only going to get tougher

Alex Burden 05-09-2017 09:52 AM

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1268215]Ring dips suffer from a range of judging expectations. I guarantee some athletes will be frustrated with their judge on event 2.[/QUOTE]

Just like the ring hanstand push ups during the games.... it was a catastrophe

Christopher Morris 05-09-2017 09:58 AM

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Ring dips suffer from a range of judging expectations. I guarantee some athletes will be frustrated with their judge on event 2.

Greg Morrison 05-09-2017 12:51 PM

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[QUOTE=Alex Burden;1268216]Just like the ring hanstand push ups during the games.... it was a catastrophe[/QUOTE]

A movement that should never be seen again - at least in competition

Victor J McQuaide 05-10-2017 11:39 AM

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My favorites.. #NBBIS
No barbell in site.. love it..

Matthew Nichols 05-12-2017 01:38 PM

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Maybe I'm missing something. Are their master's WODs or standards for the 2017 Regionals?... if so link to where they're posted?:kicking0::kicking0:

Jon Campbell 05-14-2017 09:11 AM

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[QUOTE=Matthew Nichols;1268266]Maybe I'm missing something. Are their master's WODs or standards for the 2017 Regionals?... if so link to where they're posted?:kicking0::kicking0:[/QUOTE]

There isn't a regional for masters. They did the online qualifier to decide you goes to the games.

Jason A Smith 05-14-2017 11:08 AM

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FYO, I did event #3 on Friday night. I am a pretty decent and experienced CF'er. My legs are still destroyed two days later. These events are tough, much tougher than they look on paper and how easy the high level people will make it look. I was no where near finishing in the time cap but I wanted to finish. Trust me, it hurt enough and I went pretty slow.

Greg Morrison 05-15-2017 07:46 AM

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Have they announced how we can watch the regionals?

Christopher Morris 05-15-2017 09:20 AM

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[QUOTE=Greg Morrison;1268285]Have they announced how we can watch the regionals?[/QUOTE]

I can't find any specific announcement about this year. Last year's Regionals could be watched at [url]http://games.crossfit.com/[/url] or [url]https://www.youtube.com/user/CrossFitHQ/videos[/url] under the "Live Streams" tab. (wfs? These are very general website references....)

Last year I had several tabs open to watch different Regionals simultaneously. :D

Greg Morrison 05-16-2017 01:03 PM

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[QUOTE=Greg Morrison;1268285]Have they announced how we can watch the regionals?[/QUOTE]

Found my answer:

The entirety of the 2017 Reebok CrossFit Games Regionals will be streamed to Games.CrossFit.com, CrossFit’s YouTube channel and the CrossFit Games Facebook page. Anyone, anywhere can watch every heat of every division online for free. :pepper:

Greg Morrison 05-16-2017 01:06 PM

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That East regional is going to be fun to watch

Victor J McQuaide 05-19-2017 09:12 AM

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Dang enough of the worm all ready.

Christopher Morris 05-19-2017 10:30 AM

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1268215]Ring dips suffer from a range of judging expectations. I guarantee some athletes will be frustrated with their judge on event 2.[/QUOTE]

Dave Castro is giving commentary on the East Regionals feed about how he removed push-ups from the Event 1 version of Murph due to variation in judging standards by Regionals-level judges. Interesting....

Ben Leeper 05-19-2017 01:00 PM

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Several of these athletes look like they are tearing their pectoral muscles on event 2. Alex Vigneault had to withdraw for a torn pec practicing event 2. I wonder if Dave will address the issue for the next 2 weekends. Wow crazy...

Victor J McQuaide 05-19-2017 01:01 PM

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hold on to your pecks and shoulders on event 2. Took out 2 guys in heat 4.

Alex Burden 05-22-2017 01:13 AM

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[QUOTE=Victor J McQuaide;1268366]hold on to your pecks and shoulders on event 2. Took out 2 guys in heat 4.[/QUOTE]

This was really weird, it's not as if they can't do the movement, the question is if they did not warm up the chest and shoulder area enough prior to the event.

Very unusual for this to happen.

Jason A Smith 05-22-2017 08:28 AM

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Alex, it is the speed of the contractions and overall work on the shoulder girdle leading into it that caused the problem. Likely also a function of Crossfit and the training itself. RD's are generally performed with way too much internal rotation. Notice this did not happen to any women that we know of. Likely due to the much slower rate of doing them.

Notice also that no one came up lame from doing the same volume of dips related to Muscle. It has been said several times that doing RD's for time like that is not a great idea, hopefully this is the last we see of them and the next couple weeks people are maybe a little more careful and listen to their body, but racing for points.....I doubt it.

Christopher Morris 05-22-2017 09:23 AM

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The heavy dumbbell snatches have got to be a factor as well, that is, the combination of ring dips and dumbbell snatches. Most of these guys are favoring upper body a lot for the snatches - very little lower body engagement. That effort will have an effect on the ring dips.

[QUOTE=Ben Leeper;1268365]I wonder if Dave will address the issue for the next 2 weekends. Wow crazy...[/QUOTE]

I doubt there will be any change to the programming. They may instruct the athletes on proper warm up and pacing during the event. Changing the programming would feel too much like admitting that CrossFit causes injury.

Jon Campbell 05-22-2017 11:22 AM

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It's not like this was the first time we've seen ring dips show up.

2014 regionals
2012 games (Elizabeth)

Christopher Morris 05-22-2017 11:39 AM

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Katrin Davidsdottir would have won if not for the 10th place finish in event 5. I'm not sure what happened there, but she got way behind on the first set of 21 muscle-ups and never caught up. Was she struggling with muscle-ups? Was it a struggle with a judge?

Victor J McQuaide 05-22-2017 11:54 AM

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Seems that the South West did not have any tearing.. must be in the New York water or something.

Crazy thing to happen to 4-5 guys in the same event.

Alex Burden 05-23-2017 04:14 AM

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I think it was when the men tried to go unbroken and none of the women attempted that plus not being warmed up fully for the movement.

These are the elite and something like this is not based on the movement as they all workout 2-4 times a day.

or it was the water as Vic put it :rofl:

Robert Keefe 05-23-2017 08:23 AM

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Anyone ever think maybe Event 1 leading into Event 2 had something to do with the tears. Stretching the muscle out with all those pull ups with the vest on. Way Faster times in the east too.

Vic McQuaide 05-23-2017 01:53 PM

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Yes the water..Alex.. Looking forward to watching the CA regionals this weekend.

Christopher Morris 05-24-2017 11:24 AM

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Lucas Parker withdrew from the East Regionals after event 2. He doesn't give the diagnosis, but sounds like it could be rhabdo. Here is his statement from his Instagram:

[quote]
Regionals update:

I decided to withdraw from this weekend's competition.

Halfway through the first event I started getting dizzy and lightheaded. I felt the distinct urge to sleep.

After finishing the event and leaving the floor with assistance from the medical team, I spent about half an hour getting my pulse, blood pressure, breathing, and temperature monitored and back to normal with help from the medical team.

After this I observed a very red colour in my urine.

In warmup and execution of event 2, my symptoms returned and persisted.

This is now becoming a trend for me - this pattern of events has occurred in other crossfit competitions.

Based on this, I felt it was unwise and unproductive to continue, this time.

Nobody is more disappointed about this than I am! Indeed, I am as perplexed as I am upset. I believe my prep this year was solid, and I felt good in the days and minutes leading up to this "system crash." THANK YOU to the medical staff and volunteers who took care of me and kept me safe.
The plan now is to continue recovering, and to pursue further testing and information.

I'll post more detailed thoughts in few days.
[/quote]

Jon Campbell 05-24-2017 01:26 PM

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[QUOTE=Christopher Morris;1268435]Lucas Parker withdrew from the East Regionals after event 2. He doesn't give the diagnosis, but sounds like it could be rhabdo. Here is his statement from his Instagram:[/QUOTE] Wonder if he has a medical condition he doesn't know about yet? Just seems odd someone at his level would have this rhabdo, what sounds like at multiple comps.

Christopher Morris 05-24-2017 02:56 PM

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Clearly he trains well on a day-to-day basis. I wonder why he'd have this negative reaction at competitions.

Vic McQuaide 05-25-2017 12:02 PM

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Yes that is crazy about Lucas. He is a great dude. Remember the games when he was not on point same circumstances. Maybe a back off session and get some major tests done. Hope that he heals up and finds himself back in the game if it works for him.

Christopher Morris 05-27-2017 10:11 PM

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Dan Bailey has withdrawn due to injury. He withdrew after event 2, though he hasn't said if the injury happened during the event or before or after. I rewatched the event, and he had a very normal performance in event 2, finishing 2nd.

Nick Urankar DNF'd event 2. From his Instagram:

[quote]
My injury is not serious and again was something I was dealing with from last week. When I showed standards to the judges my pec gave out again and I was pretty sure I was done. Then the buzzer sounded and I realized my weekend was over now or I could go and hope for a miracle, I told the judge "I'm off" as they tried to stop me. The reality was I wasn't getting through the Dips.
[/quote]

I rewatched Nick's performance, and he is standing flat-footed, talking to the judge when the event starts. The way he starts to run shows some hesitancy. He is the first to finish the dumbbell snatches. He does a single dip, and immediately jumps off the rings. He doesn't act like there was any acute injury at that moment. He was coming into the event with a bad pec. The minimum work requirement was one full round.

Alex Burden 05-28-2017 12:56 AM

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Shame about Dan, I like watching him, he is good for the sport, a character that is always humble and happy.


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