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Alex Burden 03-02-2015 04:46 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
No matter if you have RX or scaled division there is always going to be someone on the top and someone on the bottom.

But as many have mentioned they should not really be hitting those really big weights.

But you must remember that person has made a decision to go scaled and we need to respect that.

I am in the scaled division 45-49 and I can do T2B with no problem but my problem is the snatch! I have a dodgy shoulder that I have had problems with for 6-8 weeks now and it is getting better but the snatch always pushes my recovery back a week or two so I decided to go scaled as I get can get the bar from ground to overhead without allot of trouble. I want to recover and take part, so I am taking the safe side... I will be 100% next year and then I will go Rx.

Plus why are we taking part.... its not for anyone else, its for ourselves and our goal :)

Drew Cloutier 03-02-2015 05:39 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Blair Robert Lowe;1249638]Btw someone has posted a #390 Jerk. #235 for the women atm which is still about #20+ off Camille's best.[/QUOTE]

I've only ever heard of/seen Camille jerking 255-265 as far as i've seen her max C&J is 240

Eric R Cohen 03-02-2015 07:48 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Mike Darlington;1249710]^This. We have lots of people who can do knee raises all day but no TTB. The last 30% of the full movement is pretty tough for most people.[/QUOTE]

But do you have anyone with a 225 C&J and a 4:30 Fran time who can't do a TTB?

Mike Darlington 03-02-2015 10:28 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Eric R Cohen;1249732]But do you have anyone with a 225 C&J and a 4:30 Fran time who can't do a TTB?[/QUOTE]

No. These are completely unrelated. I was saying it's believable for someone to get a high score with knee raises but not be proficient with toes to bar. Clearly someone doing Fran Rx under 5 minutes should be in the Rx division.

Tighe Crovetti 03-02-2015 11:18 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
It raises a very interesting discussion. A female at my box is awesome. Not super strong but cycles intermediate barbells like a champ. Great engine, can burpee and box jump and double under until the cows come home. She has all the requisite skills EXCEPT....muscle-ups. She actually has recently "gotten" them - meaning, she can occasionally get a single, but some days, all misses, so she doesn't really "have" them. One perspective could say, she should do Rx (which she is, and is the obvious direction), but another perspective would say, "well, if you don't have MU, you're going to be SOL when it comes up, so go scaled."

She's a little more black and white, but clearly some people will be very grey; potentially really good, above average, skilled in many, many areas, but maybe missing a couple advanced movements, which encourages scaled (where they'd torch the rest of the field). I guess it just comes down to, that's why 1 rep of Rx ranks above any scaled score. That's fine if you want to drop to scaled because you don't have, or are afraid, of a move, but it will leave you out of the race to compare yourself to any and everyone in Rx.

Jon Campbell 03-02-2015 11:48 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Looks like Froning changed his mind about not redoing the workout. He's back in #1 with 226 on 15.1 and 350lbs on 15.1A

Victor J McQuaide 03-02-2015 01:15 PM

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Wow.. I thought that HQ thought of everything. Usually they are so decided and ready for anything. Some people had to re do the workout because they gamed it.. meaning just did one rep on 15.1 then a monster c and j.

Plus Scaled or RX.. they should have dropped the hammer on the crowd and put muscle up, HSPU, pistols or something like that for people to check the right box. Now many people are in the RX and when MU come they go back to staring at the rings...

The other way of thinking is that many people do get their first mu in the open.

Guess we will leave it up to the braintrusts at HQ

Victor J McQuaide 03-02-2015 01:17 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Rich F- 2 more reps and 4#.. going to be interesting seeing him on a team that is not at the top. He still is as competitive as ever.

Would not want to be the person on his team that lets him down.. many choices to pick from.. granted they are all beasts but not the caliper of a winning team.

We will see.

Jon Campbell 03-02-2015 01:53 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Victor J McQuaide;1249757]Rich F- 2 more reps and 4#.. going to be interesting seeing him on a team that is not at the top. He still is as competitive as ever.

Would not want to be the person on his team that lets him down.. many choices to pick from.. granted they are all beasts but not the caliper of a winning team.

We will see.[/QUOTE]

Currently 8th in the world and 1st in the region. Two games athletes from last year. Looks like they lack depth with girls but they have 3 solid guys.

Jason Fischer 03-02-2015 02:16 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Why am I being forced to register for the Games to get access to the games site? I can't find any way to bypass the login/registration page. I could this morning, but now it goes right to the login page.

Andrew Daggon 03-02-2015 03:22 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[url]http://www.boxlifemagazine.com/community/rich-fronings-new-games-journey-team-crossfit-mayhem-freedom[/url] wfs

here is a little info about rich's new team.

Steven Ngo 03-02-2015 04:32 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Jason Fischer;1249759]Why am I being forced to register for the Games to get access to the games site? I can't find any way to bypass the login/registration page. I could this morning, but now it goes right to the login page.[/QUOTE]

looks like something's wrong with the http[B][COLOR="Red"]s[/COLOR][/B] version.

go to [url]http://games.crossfit.com[/url] (http instead of https; w/fs)

Jason Fischer 03-02-2015 04:35 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Steven Ngo;1249765]looks like something's wrong with the http[B][COLOR="Red"]s[/COLOR][/B] version.

go to [url]http://games.crossfit.com[/url] (http instead of https; w/fs)[/QUOTE]

Thanks

Michael Cook 03-02-2015 05:04 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Now that 15.1 and 15.1a is over, it is time for 15.2 predictions.

I think 13.5 is a good candidate for this year's repeat workout: 3 rounds of 15 thrusters @ 100# and 15 c2b, and if you finish in 4 minutes, you get another 4 minutes on the clock.

Victor Robles 03-02-2015 05:27 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Looks like Nick Urankar is in the top spot at the moment with Rich Froning and Mat Fraser tied for second!

Jeff Railsback 03-02-2015 05:54 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Kim Jong Un just posted the best score for 15.1

Steven Thunander 03-02-2015 09:23 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Andrew Daggon;1249760][url]http://www.boxlifemagazine.com/community/rich-fronings-new-games-journey-team-crossfit-mayhem-freedom[/url] wfs

here is a little info about rich's new team.[/QUOTE]

I would love to see a CrossFit Verve team with Matt Chan and Camille Leblank-Bazinet...

Dare Vodusek 03-03-2015 12:28 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Victor Robles;1249770]Looks like Nick Urankar is in the top spot at the moment with Rich Froning and Mat Fraser tied for second![/QUOTE]

Interesting to see both of them re-doing 15.1/A when both of them said they wont do it. Liars ;)

Also...Urankar won by quite a margin over both Rich and Fraser, new contender for this year podium spot? clearly 15.1/A is a good sign of engine, pacing and strength...unless he is weak at some more specific movements, like MUs...

Tim Alford 03-03-2015 06:29 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Question for you all, what did Crossfit offer Rich to go team? I fully expect him to win the Open this year, I think he could make it championship #5 this year. My thought is that Rich is tired of the drag and says he's retiring Dave Castro then says he can't lose his #1 asset and so they cut a deal with Rich going to the team competition. It's a perfect strategy, I watched 2 or 3 events on the team side but if Rich is there I'll watch as many as I can. What I'm wondering is; did Crossfit entice Rich into this with something we don't know about? Or did Rich jump into this all on his own??

Christopher Morris 03-03-2015 07:00 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Dare Vodusek;1249791]
Also...Urankar won by quite a margin over both Rich and Fraser, new contender for this year podium spot? clearly 15.1/A is a good sign of engine, pacing and strength...unless he is weak at some more specific movements, like MUs...[/QUOTE]

I've followed Urankar for several years in the Central East. He is a strong Regional contender and qualified for the Games at least once.

Urankar's weakness is pacing or recovery. Historically he has some really great workouts early in the competition, but drops off later in the weekend. As the Open is one workout per week, he may be able to recover and perform more consistently.

Tighe Crovetti 03-03-2015 07:08 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
I think I asked this last year, but I'll offer it again:

I find myself on the leaderboard, and can quickly get my rank on each workout, that's easy. Further, subject to a point in time, I can get my cumulative rank. For example, right now, I can look myself up in my age group and region:

Individual workout ranks:
* 55th on 15.1
* 73rd on 15.1a

Cumulative ranks:
* 55th through 15.1 (by definition after only one workout)
* 37th through 15.1a - [i]note: I will lose the ability to easily discern this once 15.2 scores start coming in[/i]

What I want to know, and can't seem to get, is how many total valid scores were submitted for each workout (i.e., my percentile)? Being 37th is great, but is it out of 1,000....5,000...10,000?

The mobile app DOES show you this number (when it's working....that thing is buggy).....but only [i]almost[/i]. It shows you a rank "X/Y," and after week 1, "Y" is, in fact, simply the number of valid scores received. HOWEVER, after week 2, "Y" is going to be the number of "valid week 1 and week 2" scores. There's no way to get JUST the number of week 2 scores submitted, which leads to the general question:

Is there a (relatively) easy way to find out how many valid scores were submitted for each individual workout? So far the only way I've found is to go to the leaderboard, sort by an individual workout, go to the last page, and then go backwards page by page until you reach the first-last person who does not have a "--" for their score. That is a tedious way to go about it.

I could use the "Y" in the app at any given time IF the people who submit a score on any given week are a SUBSET of the people who submitted a score the previous week. That is, the mobile app may say I'm "100/1000" after week 1 and "95/900" after week 2. If the 900 people are all part of the 1000 from the pevious week, then I know only 900 scores were submitted in week 2. But it could be that 1200 submitted scores, 400 of which didn't submit a score in week 1, and 100 of the week 1 people didn't submit a score in week 2, there's no way to know.

David Alexander 03-03-2015 07:28 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Tim Alford;1249793]Question for you all, what did Crossfit offer Rich to go team? I fully expect him to win the Open this year, I think he could make it championship #5 this year. My thought is that Rich is tired of the drag and says he's retiring Dave Castro then says he can't lose his #1 asset and so they cut a deal with Rich going to the team competition. It's a perfect strategy, I watched 2 or 3 events on the team side but if Rich is there I'll watch as many as I can. What I'm wondering is; did Crossfit entice Rich into this with something we don't know about? Or did Rich jump into this all on his own??[/QUOTE]

Rich still wants to compete, but knows without complete dedication, he won't win individual. He believes that he can win the team competition (and they are currently in 1st place in the Open edit: in their region). I don't think CFHQ offered him any money, but remember sometime last year, Rich signed a HUGE contract with Reebok. Considering it's the REEBOK crossfit games, I am sure there is some clause about requirements to compete, just like any sponsorship.

Jason A Smith 03-03-2015 09:08 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
The problem for him with the team event is that really it has relatively little to do with how well he does. He will compete against the next best competitors from other teams. His awesome averageness across events may actually work against his team, plus the fact that the team event is really dependent results wise on your best female competitors.

Dare Vodusek 03-03-2015 09:21 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=David Alexander;1249800]Rich still wants to compete, but knows without complete dedication, he won't win individual. [/QUOTE]

Yet, his statement after the 15.1/A was that he is in "best shape of his life" and training hard as always :)

Tighe Crovetti 03-03-2015 09:28 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Dare Vodusek;1249816]Yet, his statement after the 15.1/A was that he is in "best shape of his life" and training hard as always :)[/QUOTE]
I think it's got to be more mental than anything else. Maybe he's still training hard, but mentally, it's as often as he wants, not "feels compelled to" chasing the individual title? Only he knows....

Jayme Gruber 03-03-2015 10:12 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
My guess for (not necessarily the next) Open WOD is another two parter.

The first part will be something upper body taxing, heavy barbell work and CTB maybe with the second part being max muscle-ups for time. Except this time the tiebreaker with the athletes weight will favor the heavier athletes.

Springer Blankenship 03-03-2015 10:13 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
I always like to see how the celebs, current and former professional athletes do in the open. Anyone know some names that might be competing in 2015?

Stephen Hrapsky 03-03-2015 10:24 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Anyone else still having issues with the games site? I can't get to it on Chrome, but can on IE. But on IE, I can't search athletes or anything. Anyone having similar issues?

Dare Vodusek 03-03-2015 10:26 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
I hope klokov does 15.1/A.

I assume T2B would be a struggle, but not that much, the rest should be a walk in the park for him...

Jacob Burns 03-03-2015 10:26 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Will Johnson. Steelers fullback.

Tighe Crovetti 03-03-2015 10:27 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Stephen Hrapsky;1249825]Anyone else still having issues with the games site? I can't get to it on Chrome, but can on IE. But on IE, I can't search athletes or anything. Anyone having similar issues?[/QUOTE]
the mobile app and the website have been constantly sketchy for me.

Springer Blankenship 03-03-2015 10:27 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Stephen, yes it appears to be broken at this time. Unable to search for athletes.

Edward Krotz 03-03-2015 10:50 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Springer Blankenship;1249824]I always like to see how the celebs, current and former professional athletes do in the open. Anyone know some names that might be competing in 2015?[/QUOTE]

James Townsend ex-WR from the bears. Has a bicep injury but considering that put up good numbers.

Alex Burden 03-03-2015 11:01 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Michael Cook;1249769]Now that 15.1 and 15.1a is over, it is time for 15.2 predictions.[/QUOTE]

I would like to see OHS, not heavy but just the movement from the start. This will put a stop to those athletes that go Rx because they can't even do the movement so they go scaled.

CFHQ needs to divide the field so we end up in the right group.. That's my view on the subject.

Edward Krotz 03-03-2015 11:37 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Alex Burden;1249831]I would like to see OHS, not heavy but just the movement from the start. This will put a stop to those athletes that go Rx because they can't even do the movement so they go scaled.

CFHQ needs to divide the field so we end up in the right group.. That's my view on the subject.[/QUOTE]

why OHS just have the first exercise be muscle ups.

on the OHS i like the main site wod of 4 rounds for time of: Row 500 meters
155-lb. overhead squats, 10 reps but for the open put the time scheme from 14.2 into the wod.

Alex Burden 03-03-2015 11:48 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Edward Krotz;1249837]why OHS just have the first exercise be muscle ups.

on the OHS i like the main site wod of 4 rounds for time of: Row 500 meters
155-lb. overhead squats, 10 reps but for the open put the time scheme from 14.2 into the wod.[/QUOTE]

True :)

Victor Robles 03-03-2015 03:00 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Springer Blankenship;1249824]I always like to see how the celebs, current and former professional athletes do in the open. Anyone know some names that might be competing in 2015?[/QUOTE]

Bob Harper (The Biggest Loser) posted a score.
[url]http://games.crossfit.com/athlete/27649[/url] (sfw)

Marshall Flagg 03-03-2015 03:14 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
I honestly don't know why I care but can someone tell me why the female who took 1st in 1A is still there? Says she C&J 363 which of course, she didn't.

I have looked at it a bunch of different ways thinking I was looking at it wrong but it still keeps coming up.

Luke Sirakos 03-03-2015 03:24 PM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Springer Blankenship;1249824]I always like to see how the celebs, current and former professional athletes do in the open. Anyone know some names that might be competing in 2015?[/QUOTE]

Kim Jong Un was in first place but it looks like his score was invalidated

Greg Whitekettle 03-04-2015 10:57 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Marshall Flagg;1249848]I honestly don't know why I care but can someone tell me why the female who took 1st in 1A is still there? Says she C&J 363 which of course, she didn't.[/QUOTE]

:holysheep:

Looks like there is something lost in translation / conversion because her profile says she weighs 63 lbs


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