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Bob Herald 05-05-2014 03:54 PM

Food pairings
 
Some suggest that food combinations impact digestion and subsequently body composition. For example.. Eat protein only with vegetables and not with starches. Eat starch only with fruit or vegetables. This is big in the martial arts community. Some of these guys have impressive physiques. Anyone know the science behind this idea or is it bunk?

Cam Peavy 05-05-2014 03:59 PM

Re: Food pairings
 
Bro Science. Meal pairing, as well as timing, are irrelevant.

Luke Sirakos 05-05-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cam Peavy (Post 1229936)
Bro Science. Meal pairing, as well as timing, are irrelevant.

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Dare Vodusek 05-06-2014 02:19 AM

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I've read mixing carbs with fats will result in storing the fat directly, because when insulin levels are raised body will do anything to first burn/store the excess blood sugar, blocking beta oxidation (a fancy term for burning fats). This is confirmed by real science, so its not some bro science.

But I personally dont care about it, as I dont eat a lot of carbs in a first place.

Luke Sirakos 05-06-2014 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dare Vodusek (Post 1229961)
I've read mixing carbs with fats will result in storing the fat directly, because when insulin levels are raised body will do anything to first burn/store the excess blood sugar, blocking beta oxidation (a fancy term for burning fats). This is confirmed by real science, so its not some bro science.

But I personally dont care about it, as I dont eat a lot of carbs in a first place.

It will not change anything at the end of the day depending in your total energy balance. Aka, it will not make you store any additional fat just because you ate carbs at the same time. That is bro science.

Todd Neal 05-06-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Herald (Post 1229933)
Some suggest that food combinations impact digestion and subsequently body composition. For example.. Eat protein only with vegetables and not with starches. Eat starch only with fruit or vegetables. This is big in the martial arts community. Some of these guys have impressive physiques. Anyone know the science behind this idea or is it bunk?

I'm absolutely on board with this. There are a lot of cultural examples of food combinations that work together to get the most benefits, like rice & beans; they each make up for what the other lacks. Also some vitamins are fat soluble and must be eaten with fat in order to get the benefit, like calcium.

The trouble is that the extent to which foods work together is very difficult to study (so far as I understand it) and thus we have very little knowledge when it comes to what to eat (and with what). As far as creating a diet approach based on these food combinations, I'd be wary of any claims. But it doesn't mean that they're wrong.

Todd Neal 05-06-2014 12:32 PM

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I'd also say that timing can be relevant, depending on a few things. We've already discussed in another thread how your body responds differently to partition calories post-workout.

Cam Peavy 05-08-2014 05:51 AM

Re: Food pairings
 
There's much more biology behind "You eat it and your body uses it for energy". Just because you eat rice and beans together at the same time, does not mean they will be digested equally and have their energy used together.

Same goes for meal timing; while although you might "feel" better eating PWO, the energy you gain from that food is not instantaneous.

Todd Neal 05-08-2014 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cam Peavy (Post 1230178)
There's much more biology behind "You eat it and your body uses it for energy". Just because you eat rice and beans together at the same time, does not mean they will be digested equally and have their energy used together.

Then it's a good thing that nobody is claiming that.

Cam Peavy 05-08-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Neal (Post 1230268)
Then it's a good thing that nobody is claiming that.

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Originally Posted by Todd Neal (Post 1230005)
I'm absolutely on board with this. There are a lot of cultural examples of food combinations that work together to get the most benefits, like rice & beans; they each make up for what the other lacks. Also some vitamins are fat soluble and must be eaten with fat in order to get the benefit, like calcium.

The trouble is that the extent to which foods work together is very difficult to study (so far as I understand it) and thus we have very little knowledge when it comes to what to eat (and with what). As far as creating a diet approach based on these food combinations, I'd be wary of any claims. But it doesn't mean that they're wrong.

Nope, no one seems to be talking about this at all.


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