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Albert Clayton 06-20-2006 12:02 PM

Will it be worth watching this fight on Pay per view?

It seems to me Ortiz will finish him off pretty quickly.

John Seiler 06-20-2006 12:26 PM

I'm so excited about Sylvia/Arlovski 3 I don't have a choice of whether to watch. It's been interesting to watch the Ultimate Fighter 3. I used to loathe Tito and kinda like Shamrock. The tables have turned. I think you're right about Tito winning this pretty handily. Still, it's a fight; anything can happen and I'd hate to miss it if Ken pulls off a shocker.

Guest 06-20-2006 12:42 PM

yeah.... it's hard to believe that ortiz won't completely dominate, but there's always that puncher's chance. like john said, i'd be ****ed if i missed it. but yeah, arlovski sylvia should be good.

Michael Ernest Estrada 06-20-2006 01:13 PM

Ortiz and Shamrock, this will be another beating for Ken.I know alot of people that hated Ortiz and liked Ken, even my wife.

Now the shoe is on the other foot, everyone likes Ortiz. It should be a good but short fight.

Mike Estrada
Maguilla BJJ combat club
purple belt

Anthony Cecil 06-20-2006 05:44 PM

I know a lot of people who are hoping for Ken to win just so that he will finally retire. Count me amongst the "switching to Tito's camp." They are both a little too puroresu for my liking, though...

Here is hoping that Arlovski catches another heel hook.

Aidan O Brien 06-21-2006 06:54 AM

Like everyone else i suppose i suspect Ortiz to make quick work of it.

I just see it that Shamrock never grew as a fighter...he has the same skillset as he had when he fought Bas Rutten in Pancrase...and that is just not good enough.

Tito on the other hand is more modern day MMA, always trying to improve his weak points etc.

As for AA vs TS....i would like to see Arlovski take back the belt, despite the bandwagon jumping of people who left Arlovski when he lost last time i still have faith in him. I like fighters for more reasons that there wins afterall!!!

Becca Borawski 06-21-2006 05:37 PM

I posted this pic on another thread here, but I'll post it again -- there's no way that Shamrock is training with half the talent that Tito is: Rampage, Josh Barnett, Mayhem, etc.

http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/21357/26131.jpg

Rob McBee 06-21-2006 08:25 PM

I think Ortiz will win. Shamrock should have retired after losing to Rich Franklin. His age was showing in that fight and I'm afraid he'll look worse now.


Albert Clayton 06-22-2006 07:38 AM

One thing I noticed, on TUF is that Tito's fighters were commenting that there cardio is at a level that they had never taken it before.

Shamrock's fighter would mention that they were gassing during there fights or lacked cardio. That is sad.

Becca Borawski 06-22-2006 08:30 AM

Kalib Starnes posted on the Ultimate Fighter forums saying he was in worse shape when he left the show than when he showed up, due to Ken's "workout" regimen.


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