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Victor J McQuaide 05-26-2015 10:49 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
I hate judging.. I find myself cheering and wondering how many reps they did... lucky I don't do it much.. I hate giving no reps.. but I have been no repped plenty of times in competition so some people love giving no reps. Yes you see inconstancy in one judge or the other.. one athlete or the next. We all hate to get no repped but I am sure that we deserved most all of them and a few more.

I do have mucho respect for judges who do this on their own free time and to the promotors who put on the events. Such a big cog with some many moving parts.

Andrew Bell 05-26-2015 11:17 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Bridges: While I do admire his work ethic, it's really hard for me to get behind the guy. He is simply too small. I'm 6'2, 260lbs, and he is one large whole pizza away from being half of me. I do wish him the best in the future at the Games should he make it again.

Mikko: Guy was a machine in every sense of the word. I love his thoughts on no music/cheering, etc. Really miss him and his attitude.

Fisher: She's young, she'll be back. Yes she is a fan favorite also, and I wish she could have made it but I like the fact that she was waving to the fans, etc.

SDHP: An ancient cf move that goes WAY back. As for what they are here, as opposed to they are to the rest of the world, if a snatch can be pressed out, and still count, then I get it. It's CF making up a standard for it in their own world. No problem here. I actually like it in the CF world.

Drew Cloutier 05-27-2015 04:25 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Victor J McQuaide;1253018]I hate judging.. I find myself cheering and wondering how many reps they did... lucky I don't do it much.. I hate giving no reps.. but I have been no repped plenty of times in competition so some people love giving no reps. Yes you see inconstancy in one judge or the other.. one athlete or the next. We all hate to get no repped but I am sure that we deserved most all of them and a few more.

I do have mucho respect for judges who do this on their own free time and to the promotors who put on the events. Such a big cog with some many moving parts.[/QUOTE]

Just because you give no reps doesn't mean you like giving no reps...I don't like to...but if I see someone who's form is ***** then no way am I counting it...

Tim Alford 05-27-2015 07:19 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Drew Cloutier;1253050]Just because you give no reps doesn't mean you like giving no reps...I don't like to...but if I see someone who's form is ***** then no way am I counting it...[/QUOTE]


In some weird way I actually like no reps. Not when I get them of course, but when I see an elite athlete get one, you get to see their real side. Whether it is the Dan Bailey smile and head shake, the Froning death stare, or the Khalipa mouth open gaze. Seeing some major athletes yelling at a judge mid-WOD because of a no-rep shows they lack that mental edge. So, in a round about way, they are kind of nice to see. What I hate to see is when an athlete gets a dozen no reps because they're too exhausted or they don't understand the requirements, that's a little disheartening.

Michael Cook 05-27-2015 08:48 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
I like that CF made the standard for snatch and clean that a knee touching the floor would be a no rep.

Diana Alt 05-27-2015 10:21 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Drew Cloutier;1253050]Just because you give no reps doesn't mean you like giving no reps...I don't like to...but if I see someone who's form is ***** then no way am I counting it...[/QUOTE]

Did you mean to say that when you see an athlete who doesn't meet movement standards you won't count it? There absolutely is a difference. One of the most difficult things about judging is distinguishing between bad form and failure to meet movement standards. I allow reps all the time that have bad form because they met the standards. It's no fun to do this, but it's the job of the judge. Oddly enough, some of the people who suck the most at distinguishing this when judging are coaches.

Diana Alt 05-27-2015 10:25 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Tim Alford;1253058]In some weird way I actually like no reps. Not when I get them of course, but when I see an elite athlete get one, you get to see their real side. Whether it is the Dan Bailey smile and head shake, the Froning death stare, or the Khalipa mouth open gaze. Seeing some major athletes yelling at a judge mid-WOD because of a no-rep shows they lack that mental edge. So, in a round about way, they are kind of nice to see. What I hate to see is when an athlete gets a dozen no reps because they're too exhausted or they don't understand the requirements, that's a little disheartening.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I came very close to bouncing an athlete from a competition last year because she cussed me out for no repping her. Ultimately I told her that the WOD had a time cap and that it was her choice whether she wanted to use the time to argue with me or do the work.

Since I'm judging the Central regional, the running joke at my gym is that my life goal is to no rep Froning. God knows he shortcuts his squats enough to earn some. In reality, I'm hoping I won't even be judging The heats Froning is in. The team from my gym is going in as the top seed and if they perform like they should, I am expecting them to be in the same heat as Mayhem Freedom for the weekend. We have a few extra judges so I want to duck out to watch my friends compete if I can.

Victor J McQuaide 05-27-2015 10:27 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
Question about Masters, Teens and Teams.. mention a bit ago about them being in the Soccer stadium? Wonder if anyone heard anything else about that. They are charging $25.00 per day per person to watch. Certainly hope that Vendor Village is open so they can justify the charge. The track was a venue was good in that the stands held several thousand people. The soccer stadium holds so many would get lost. Knowing Crossfit I am sure that they have a plan maybe corner off some stands and make the platform, rig.. opens up so many new ideas. Castro was saying that the space of the track limited what he could do.

Tighe Crovetti 05-27-2015 10:38 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1253066]Did you mean to say that when you see an athlete who doesn't meet movement standards you won't count it? There absolutely is a difference. One of the most difficult things about judging is distinguishing between bad form and failure to meet movement standards. I allow reps all the time that have bad form because they met the standards. It's no fun to do this, but it's the job of the judge. Oddly enough, some of the people who suck the most at distinguishing this when judging are coaches.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point. The Judges Course, in fact, is quite clear that a judge is not there to comment on an athlete's form/mechanics. They are only there to ensure that they meet the points of performance required to meet the standard, no more, no less.

Re: your other post, about Froning's squats. I can't say I've noticed, per se, but it reminds me of something, that I've thought that judging people with shorter legs and big quads can be difficult, particularly if they have a neutral-to-narrow stance. A guy at my box fits that build and I avoid judging him if possible; it can very hard to see exactly where their hip crease is sometimes.

Drew Cloutier 05-27-2015 11:12 AM

Re: 2015 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread
 
[QUOTE=Diana Alt;1253066]Did you mean to say that when you see an athlete who doesn't meet movement standards you won't count it? There absolutely is a difference. One of the most difficult things about judging is distinguishing between bad form and failure to meet movement standards. I allow reps all the time that have bad form because they met the standards. It's no fun to do this, but it's the job of the judge. Oddly enough, some of the people who suck the most at distinguishing this when judging are coaches.[/QUOTE]

Totally correct. I am speaking more from a powerlifting background, the form vs standards are kind of the same thing in that realm...I mean other than say rounded back deadlifting, and some stuff like that...

I've no repped for not waiting for commands (in PL you have to wait for commands to start, rack, etc) no repped for butt coming off bench, not touching chest, not hitting parallel, dropping bar, etc...


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