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Terry Dickman 04-01-2010 08:25 PM

Re: Over 50 Crossfitters Sign In
 
[QUOTE=John Jaeckel;762479]Cholesterol improvement: not what I'd hoped, but better overall and in every category.

TOTAL HDL LDL VLDL TRIGLYCERIDES

11/2 283 57 183 43 214
3/27 274 64 180 30 151

Still high on the LDL, but real low on the VLDL and the jury's out scientifically on LDL anyway. VLDL is the bad stuff. Higher on HDL, also good. And triglycerides much improved.

There are still a couple of areas of my regular diet that are not rigidly (or even semi-rigidly) Paleo, and there I can improve.[/QUOTE]

Hey John, I just had mine done 2 weeks ago.

TOTAL-265
HDL-66
LDL -185
TRIGLYCERIDES-70

I used to be on meds for high cholesterol but quit because in my opinion the side effects were not worth it. My diet has been pretty good for the last year, very strict Paleo. I feel better than ever, my body fat is way down.

I think this whole thing about high cholesterol is really subjective.
Have you had the test where they measure particle size? LDL is calculated and it's really more important to find out what the particle size is, large particles are better, there is new data out there that suggest that particle size is a better indicator of coronary risk. You can have low LDL an be at high risk if particles are small or vice versa, be at low risk with high LDL and large particles.

We have an over 50 member in our gym who had a TRIGLYCERIDE level of over 400, 6 months after paleo it was down to 80.

check these links out both WFS
[url]http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/weight-loss/low-carbohydrate-diets-increase-ldl-debunking-the-myth/[/url]
[url]http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/cholesterol-a-primer[/url]

and listen to Robb's webcast episode 19
[url]http://*************/2010/03/16/the-paleolithic-solution-episode-19/[/url]

Jeff Kilinski 04-02-2010 04:31 AM

Re: Over 50 Crossfitters Sign In
 
Thursday, April 1st,

3 sets for times:
Run 800 m @ 80% 4:04, 4:23, 4:22
rest 3 min
Row 800 m @ 80% 2:56, 3:05, 2:59
rest 3 min

Today's a rest day. Well, sort of. Taking the kids to Museum of Science and Industry, IMAX Hubble Space Show, then Chinatown.

John Jaeckel 04-02-2010 05:07 AM

Re: Over 50 Crossfitters Sign In
 
[QUOTE=Terry Dickman;762588]Hey John, I just had mine done 2 weeks ago.

TOTAL-265
HDL-66
LDL -185
TRIGLYCERIDES-70

I used to be on meds for high cholesterol but quit because in my opinion the side effects were not worth it. My diet has been pretty good for the last year, very strict Paleo. I feel better than ever, my body fat is way down.

I think this whole thing about high cholesterol is really subjective.
Have you had the test where they measure particle size? LDL is calculated and it's really more important to find out what the particle size is, large particles are better, there is new data out there that suggest that particle size is a better indicator of coronary risk. You can have low LDL an be at high risk if particles are small or vice versa, be at low risk with high LDL and large particles.

We have an over 50 member in our gym who had a TRIGLYCERIDE level of over 400, 6 months after paleo it was down to 80.

check these links out both WFS
[url]http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/weight-loss/low-carbohydrate-diets-increase-ldl-debunking-the-myth/[/url]
[url]http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/cholesterol-a-primer[/url]

and listen to Robb's webcast episode 19
[url]http://*************/2010/03/16/the-paleolithic-solution-episode-19/[/url][/QUOTE]

Hey Terry, yeah, I listen to Robb's podcasts pretty much every night. GREAT stuff. I think my triglycerides were as high as they were because I sort of fell off the wagon on booze a couple of times the week leading up to my test. I have been really good on Paleo, though I do need to eliminate the odd bowl of ice cream.

I have not had my LDL particles examined, but I have a suspicion that mine is as high as it is largely due to exercise, not diet. There's a lot of evidence that muscular inflammation from heavy training causes elevated LDL, and that's not a bad thing. The Framingham Heart Study clearly states that there is zero correlation between elevated LDL and heart disease risk. But there is with VLDL (and by association, triglycerides).

Seems like the latest science points to HDL being optimally high and triglycerides/VLDL being optimally low as the key to reducing your heart disease risk. And that said, I feel pretty good about where I am and what I am trending toward.

Conversely, I read a great article (online—no link available right now) about "Wheat Belly", by an MD, basically talking about the low HDL and high triglyceride numbers (and borderline diabetic FBG) of physically active people who eat the USDA recommended 10-12 servings a day of grains.

Jim Cordes 04-02-2010 12:41 PM

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4/2 WOD

”100 Up”
Take weight from the ground to overhead in any fashion that you’d like. However, every time that the weight is put down it’s time to run 400M.
Weights – 95# barbell/ 45# dumbbells (alternate after each run)

26:05 @ 75# barbell, 35# dumbbells, power cleans and jerks on all reps. Another very hard WOD! Did sets of about 20-30, so only three runs. Resting barball on back of neck was a bad idea. It was too hard to bring it over head, and then it just fell hard, stressing grip. Resting bar in lap while hunched over was most efficient rest. Resting dumbbells on legs above knees was pretty efficient too. Toward ends of each set I was resting between each lift. Augie just plugged away like a piston, and was done in about half my time; Glenn cranked them out too. KJ picked an enormous weight and once again dug very, very deep to finish this one. I won't be sad if this doesn't come up again for a couple years/ever.

The Claw

John Jaeckel 04-02-2010 02:33 PM

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04/02/10:
(3rd Week, Wendler 5/3/1, OHS Day)

WARMUP:
re-configured my gym, which involved a lot of schlepping weights and equipment (and 110 lb. mats) around
OHS 5x45, 5x55, 3x65
Full body stretch
PVC rollovers

STRENGTH:
OHS
5x80
3x90
8x100

WOD:
100 Ball Slams (25 lb)
5:01

John Jaeckel 04-02-2010 02:37 PM

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[QUOTE=Jim Cordes;762803]4/2 WOD

”100 Up”
Take weight from the ground to overhead in any fashion that you’d like. However, every time that the weight is put down it’s time to run 400M.
Weights – 95# barbell/ 45# dumbbells (alternate after each run)

26:05 @ 75# barbell, 35# dumbbells, power cleans and jerks on all reps. Another very hard WOD! Did sets of about 20-30, so only three runs.[B] Resting barball on back of neck was a bad idea. It was too hard to bring it over head, and then it just fell hard, stressing grip.[/B] Resting bar in lap while hunched over was most efficient rest. Resting dumbbells on legs above knees was pretty efficient too. Toward ends of each set I was resting between each lift. Augie just plugged away like a piston, and was done in about half my time; Glenn cranked them out too. KJ picked an enormous weight and once again dug very, very deep to finish this one. I won't be sad if this doesn't come up again for a couple years/ever.

The Claw[/QUOTE]

Funny, I would have done a lot of it with behind the neck jerks

Pat Quigley 04-02-2010 04:42 PM

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Did "Tabata Something Else". 4 exercises: Pull ups, push ups, sit ups, and squats do for 20 sec, 10 sec off for 8 rounds each. No rest between exercises. Did 62 Pull ups, 82 Push ups, 67 Sit ups (on ground, not GHD), 183 squats. This is no PR. still a great workout.

John Scott Rezendes 04-02-2010 05:44 PM

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4-2-10

Beautiful day here in southern GA so I executed a 13 mile bike ride as a warm up and pretty much discovered the folly of it too late.

WOD: 3-3-3-3-3 Hang Power Cleans
115x10
125x3
135x3
145x3
155x3
165 [COLOR="Red"]F[/COLOR]

Was just plain ol' gassed early on and my form suffered mightily as a result. My 1 RM for the HPC is #175. Live to fight another day.

Jim Cordes 04-02-2010 05:57 PM

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[QUOTE=John Jaeckel;762846]Funny, I would have done a lot of it with behind the neck jerks[/QUOTE]

Except that the movement was floor to overhead, so doing behind the neck jerks meant extra distance clearing my head and going back down to shoulder. I tended to put bar in rest position after completing an overhead rep, so it came down behind my head, then I had to pop it up and over on its way down to the ground.

(Man, there's a lot of stratergy in this stuff. :rolleyes:)

The Claw

John Burch 04-02-2010 06:48 PM

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CFC WU

Pushpress
5@ 95#
5@ 115
5@ 135
5@ 150
5@ 160

WOD
10-1 95# snatch
1-10 95# thruster
25:08

felt strong in the early rounds then the thrusters came into play

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