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David Joseph Danaher 03-08-2010 05:56 PM

Saturated Fats
 
Quicky -

Conventional wisdom says that saturated and trans-fats are bad. While often conventional wisdom is wrong, Dr. Sears seemed to think that the fats we should eat are the mono and poly-unsaturateds, and that the ones previously mentioned could, in fact, add to inflammatory issues. The majority of these boards seem to be much in favor of the foods rich in saturated fats, i.e. bacon. I understand that any "bad" fat will have much less effect on someone whose insulin is very well under control by limiting the glycemic load of a given meal, but are those fats even bad at all? I get most of mine from nuts, almond butter, canola mayo, and guacomole. I've recently been using some coconut milk, and that is what has piqued my interest in this. What are your thoughts?

Jamie J. Skibicki 03-08-2010 07:07 PM

Re: Saturated Fats
 
Less sat fat = less testosterone.

David Joseph Danaher 03-08-2010 08:09 PM

Re: Saturated Fats
 
Seriously? I did NOT know that. No wonder why I've been watching so much Sex and the City!

Steven Low 03-08-2010 08:11 PM

Re: Saturated Fats
 
All wfs

Most are on Sat fats.


[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/12/dirty-little-secret-of-diet-heart.html[/url]
[url]http://freetheanimal.com/2009/09/saturated-fat-intake-vs-heart-disease-stroke.html[/url]
[url]http://stan-heretic.blogspot.com/2009/10/food-choices-and-coronary-heart-disease.html[/url]
[url]http://drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/2009/10/low-carb-paleo-nothings-impossible.html[/url]
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19364995?dopt=Abstract[/url]
[url]http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/fast-food/meat-and-mortality/[/url]
[url]http://www.performancemenu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4021[/url]
[url]http://charm.cs.uiuc.edu/users/jyelon/lowcarb.med/[/url]
[url]http://rachel421-intermittentfasting.blogspot.com/2009/10/1059-mon-butter-makes-it-better.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/10/butter-vs-margarine-showdown.html[/url]
[url]http://barrygroves.blogspot.com/2009/10/dont-want-heart-attack-eat-your-fruit.html[/url]
[url]http://openwaterchicago.com/2009/10/22/primal-eating-enhances-nerve-growth/[/url]
[url]http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/10/31/effect-of-animal-fat-on-sleep-more/[/url]
[url]http://*************/?p=849[/url]
[url]http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/saturated-fat-and-coronary-heart-disease-part-i-introducing-professor-rod-jackson.html[/url]
[url]http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/saturated-fat-and-coronary-heart-disease-part-ii-the-paleo-principle.html[/url]
[url]http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/saturated-fat-and-coronary-heart-disease-part-iii-cognitive-dissonance.html[/url]
[url]http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/after-eating-effects-carbohydrates-vs.html[/url]
[url]http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/carbs-kill-and-eating-animals-saves-lives.html[/url]
[url]http://blog.zeroinginonhealth.com/?p=1388[/url]
[url]http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/drilling-down-saturated-fat-epidemiology.html[/url]
[url]http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/2009/09/fatty-foods-release-memory-improving.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/09/diabetics-on-low-carbohydrate-diet.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/10/paleolithic-diet-clinical-trials.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/10/paleolithic-diet-clinical-trials-part.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/02/paleolithic-diet-clinical-trials-part.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/09/paleolithic-diet-clinical-trials-part.html[/url]
[url]http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2009/06/06/saturated-fat/[/url]
[url]http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/alzheimers-and-ketone-bodies-from-coconut-oil.html[/url]
[url]http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2009/08/heart-failure-and-insulin-resistance.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/07/diet-heart-hypothesis-oxidized-ldl-part.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/08/diet-heart-hypothesis-oxidized-ldl-part.html[/url]
[url]http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/fructose-is-coronary-risk-factor.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/12/butter-margarine-and-heart-disease.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/05/coronary-heart-disease-epidemic.html[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/07/diet-heart-hypothesis-subdividing.html[/url]
[url]http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/2009/07/low-carbs-lowers-triglycerides.html[/url]
[url]http://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/[/url]
[url]http://www.performancemenu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4040[/url]
[url]http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-saturated-fat-review-article-by-dr.html[/url]
[url]http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/2010/01/cure-for-middle-aged-middle.html[/url]
[url]http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/1/1/2[/url]
[url]http://zerocarbforlife.com/?page_id=2[/url]
[url]http://blog.zeroinginonhealth.com/?p=1523[/url]
[url]http://nutrition-and-physical-regeneration.com/blog/2788/web-links/mo-buttah-mo-bettah/[/url]
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20167576?dopt=Abstract[/url]


edit... wow they block links to robb's website now that's pretty busted.

Rene Forestier 03-08-2010 08:12 PM

Re: Saturated Fats
 
[QUOTE=David Joseph Danaher;750649]Quicky -

Conventional wisdom says that saturated and trans-fats are bad. While often conventional wisdom is wrong, Dr. Sears seemed to think that the fats we should eat are the mono and poly-unsaturateds, and that the ones previously mentioned could, in fact, add to inflammatory issues. The majority of these boards seem to be much in favor of the foods rich in saturated fats, i.e. bacon. I understand that any "bad" fat will have much less effect on someone whose insulin is very well under control by limiting the glycemic load of a given meal, but are those fats even bad at all? I get most of mine from nuts, almond butter, canola mayo, and guacomole. I've recently been using some coconut milk, and that is what has piqued my interest in this. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I don't think fats "limit the glycemic load", but they do delay gastric emptying.

Sat fats are pretty important, though. Check this out for starters. [URL="http://www.westonaprice.org/index.php?option=com_googlesearch&n=30&domains=www.westonaprice.org&sitesearch=www.westonaprice.org&q=saturated+fat&sa=Go%21&client=pub-noaccount&forid=1&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&cof=GALT%3A008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3Affff00%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A11&hl=en&safe=active&cr=countryUS"]WAPF[/URL]

Renee Lee 03-08-2010 08:18 PM

Re: Saturated Fats
 
holy links, batman!

the robb wolf link is here, sfw: [url]http://tinyurl.com/ykbxbg8[/url]

Jamie J. Skibicki 03-08-2010 09:36 PM

Re: Saturated Fats
 
5 to 1 steven has read every one

Casey Crooks 03-08-2010 10:00 PM

Re: Saturated Fats
 
twice probly. i just bookmarked this thread for my downtime reading.

Ben Clark 03-08-2010 11:00 PM

Re: Saturated Fats
 
trans fats don't belong categorised with saturated. I think trans fats are the single worst thing even allowed into our food supply in quantity. Proven health hazards with no redeeming value but producing low cost factory 'food'.

Much of the science against saturated fat is invalid because the studies included large amounts of trans fats. They used hydrogenated vegetable oils as 'saturated fats' because they are cheaper. There are still some epidemiological studies(Willet for ex) that make me less than perfectly confident that satfat is no problem at all but not so worried that I don't eat a lot of it myself. If I had a family history of heart attack I would think about it much more carefully.

I'm fairly sure fats moderate the insulin spike from carbs and protein. Bad for muscle building PWO, good for diabetes or syndrome-x control. Some of the insulin-centered low carb diets recommend eating fat with every meal or snack.

Coconut oil is mostly short chain saturated fats and even many of the anti-saturated fat 'experts' agree it isn't much of a problem.

I have PERSONALLY, for ME found that n-6 poly's are clearly associated with ME getting acne on MY nose! Even paleo sources like nuts. I don't know or care if there is much science to support this, I just avoid eating them and avoid getting called 'Rudolph'. :)

Some people really object to canola as healthy athough the fat profile is excellent by anybody's standards. Rapeseed has a toxin. Canola is a hybridized or GE version of that. All unnatural. blah blah blah. You might want to pursue that further. Or not.

Fish oil is a very valuable supplement. Probably should be regarded as essential unless you'd rather eat a ton of actual fish.

Darryl Shaw 03-09-2010 06:42 AM

Re: Saturated Fats
 
Saturated fats have no known role in preventing disease and as there is no dietary requirement for them and any increase in saturated fat intake results in an increase in both total and LDL cholesterol and subsequently increases CVD risk the current advice is that you should keep your saturated fat intake as low as possible while consuming a nutritionally adequate diet.


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