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Katherine Derbyshire 01-27-2012 03:59 PM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
[QUOTE=Jason Wallis;1027791]Also, there's a difference between finishing near last and finishing 15 minutes after everyone else. .[/QUOTE]

This. If you're finishing in the top 5-10%, the scaling is probably too easy for you. Bottom 5-10%, maybe too hard. But other than that... Someone's got to finish last. :shrug: It's not an exact science.

Katherine

Katherine Derbyshire 01-27-2012 04:05 PM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
One way to think of it is like handicapping in golf. The goal of handicapping is to let people with disparate abilities enjoy a competitive round. But if Tiger Woods is playing someone who couldn't find a green if he dropped a ball on it, Tiger is still going to be pretty bored.

Katherine

Bryan Spillman 02-15-2012 09:28 AM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
A lot of WoD's I have no idea if I should attempt RX weight for some movements because I don't know how all these movements fit together. Sometimes the weight is just a pickem..

For Example:

7 Rounds For Time (20 min cap.)
5 HSPU = I was banded
10 Toes2Rings
15 Thrusters with Dumbells

I picked up the 40's for thrusters, made it two rounds, and was destroyed. I dropped to 30's, still bad news.... So I time capped at 4 rounds + some....
So not only did I not finish the WoD, I picked incorrect weight..

Peter Villa 02-15-2012 01:25 PM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
Yesterday I went RX'd on a WOD that I knew I was going to suck on. It involved Front Squats. And anything with FS, and I suck.

400m run then 4 rounds of:
15 FS 135#
12 SDHP 135#
9 GS push Ups
Finish with 400m run.

15 min cap.

Needless to say, I didn't finish in time. I was like 2 minutes over. (pathetic).

But I think I needed it. At the end, I was very happy I did go RX because I needed it. My FS suck so bad, that maybe I needed that.

No regrets going RX on this one. :)

Katherine Derbyshire 02-15-2012 11:49 PM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
If you need to work on your front squat, then work on your front squat. Doing a few sets before your main workout a few times a week will do much more for you than grinding through a workout like this.

Katherine

Tony Sutton 02-16-2012 08:16 AM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
[QUOTE=Peter Villa;1034155]Yesterday I went RX'd on a WOD that I knew I was going to suck on. It involved Front Squats. And anything with FS, and I suck.

400m run then 4 rounds of:
15 FS 135#
12 SDHP 135#
9 GS push Ups
Finish with 400m run.

15 min cap.

Needless to say, I didn't finish in time. I was like 2 minutes over. (pathetic).

But I think I needed it. At the end, I was very happy I did go RX because I needed it. My FS suck so bad, that maybe I needed that.

No regrets going RX on this one. :)[/QUOTE]

In my mind, I would have suggested lighter weights. I approach all workouts with rounds as needing to be able to crush the first round, if not the second. It should become more difficult in the following rounds. Given that you had two 400m runs, this should take around 4 minutes, 11 minutes should be more than enough time to finish this. I think the SDHP should have been a lower weight or a much lower number of reps.

So in regards to RX, did you go unbroken through the first round? If not, then a lighter weight would have been a good choice. I agree with Katherine, work on your weaknesses before the workout.

Tony Sutton 02-16-2012 08:19 AM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
[QUOTE=Katherine Derbyshire;1027951]One way to think of it is like handicapping in golf. The goal of handicapping is to let people with disparate abilities enjoy a competitive round. But if Tiger Woods is playing someone who couldn't find a green if he dropped a ball on it, Tiger is still going to be pretty bored.

Katherine[/QUOTE]

I haven't even read the whole post, but I agree with this 100%. It returns to what is the goal of the workout. If my gym runs fran, I don't want people to rx it if they are taking over 10 minutes. To use the golfing analogy, we would use the handicap to put everyone closer to the same level to enjoy a competitive round (or meet the goals of the workout). That's what is important, not RX.

Brian Blaston 02-16-2012 11:49 AM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
How much slower than the fastest Rx person are you as the last place finisher on WODs?

Maybe you should start scaling to be within say 20% of his / her time. 20% is somewhat arbitrary, but personally when I look at a WOD I base scaling on the desired stimuli.

Peter Villa 02-17-2012 08:50 AM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
[QUOTE=Tony Sutton;1034434]In my mind, I would have suggested lighter weights. I approach all workouts with rounds as needing to be able to crush the first round, if not the second. It should become more difficult in the following rounds. Given that you had two 400m runs, this should take around 4 minutes, 11 minutes should be more than enough time to finish this. I think the SDHP should have been a lower weight or a much lower number of reps.

So in regards to RX, did you go unbroken through the first round? If not, then a lighter weight would have been a good choice. I agree with Katherine, work on your weaknesses before the workout.[/QUOTE]

I blew through my first round actually. It's my work capacity after multiple rounds that sucks when it involved FS.

We actually started out with Max Effort FS. I only weigh 170, and I have a 245 FS. Not too shabby actually, but as soon as it involves a WOD, I'm done. Which is why I thought, it would be good for me.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the outcome.

Tony, I'd like to see you do this WOD in 4 minutes. Video please if you do. The 400m buy in and buy out alone should take you 30-40 seconds a piece. Theres 1 minute gone right there.

Charles Golden 02-22-2012 09:47 AM

Re: Better To Rx And Lost, Then Never Rx'd Before?
 
[QUOTE=Peter Villa;1034813]
Tony, I'd like to see you do this WOD in 4 minutes. Video please if you do. The 400m buy in and buy out alone should take you 30-40 seconds a piece. Theres 1 minute gone right there.[/QUOTE]

Yea I'd love to see someone finish that workout in 4 min. Maybe he didn't see the 400's at the beginning and end, without them I could see a fire breather finish in 4 min.


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