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George Smith
06-23-2011, 10:39 PM
Hey guys,
I just discovered after 3 yrs of cronic back pain that i have a Bulging disk...
Im wondering how bad is this in terms of my fitness related goals? I still train 7-8 times a week, deadlift 180kg, front squat 110kg, run 800m intervals in vibram five fingers with 7kg weight vest, Do i risk poping it? Or further damaging it?
Now heres the other interesting thing that most people on this board probably will frown upon, i Started taking GHRP 6 about three months ago, and after just 2 weeks my back pain completely diminished and now is gone, but i only had this scan the other day and the disk problem is there...allthough my back doesn't hurt anymore.

For those who don't know GHRP 6 is a Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide. I heard about its amazing healing propertys, which are all 100% true. It is not a synthetic hormone, it is a Peptide and causes the body to naturally produce growth hormone is higher quantitys.

So any advice from people who have this condition, or who have experience with it would be greatly appreciated.

Brent Sallee
06-25-2011, 08:40 AM
GHRP is not going to fix your disc - essentially, it doesn't regenerate. Sure, you can improve its tensile ability and improve core strength to avoid the nucleus pulposus constantly protruding through, but you won't be able to truly fix the disc itself - it doesn't have the capacity to do so with or without drugs/supplements. If your activity is too much for the disc, it will degenerate and you'll lose space between your two vertebrae surrounding it. That will result in decreased ROM at that segment and may even begin causing other pain - facet joint pain, neural pain. Honestly, if you want to address the disc for your overall wellness and future health, you should see a good physical therapist or chiropractor who specializes in therapeutic exercise on top of manipulation.

Eric Sutich
06-28-2011, 04:37 AM
Brent is right, the GHRP won't regenerate the disc, as unfortunately nothing has been found to do this yet.

As far as your question that he didn't answer, you should be fine with the bulging disc as long as it's not causing nerve pain or damage. Also, if the bulg was severe enough your doc would have referred you to a neurosurgeon. So, if it's not causing you debilitating pain, keep on doing what you are doing and ALWAYS keep your core strong.

Brent Sallee
06-28-2011, 05:41 AM
Brent is right, the GHRP won't regenerate the disc, as unfortunately nothing has been found to do this yet.

As far as your question that he didn't answer, you should be fine with the bulging disc as long as it's not causing nerve pain or damage. Also, if the bulg was severe enough your doc would have referred you to a neurosurgeon. So, if it's not causing you debilitating pain, keep on doing what you are doing and ALWAYS keep your core strong.

I answered the question. He probably shouldn't go back into CF without addressing why the disc rupture occurred - segmental vertebral hyper or hypomobilities, possible baseline malposition, weakness in certain areas, etc. That is, if he wants to prevent future pain or possible further herniation(s).

Mike Mallory
06-29-2011, 09:02 AM
The discs aren't totally stagnant......They can heal, it just takes a LONG time. like <300-500 days (of good behavior)

Stuff like this (http://www.sahlgrenska.gu.se/english/news_and_events/news/News_Detail/exercise-produces-positive-effects-on-the-intervertebral-discs.cid1029905) WFS, and Guy Voyer's research have shown positive improvements in disc height and stability with certain specific activities.

Secondly, almost everyone is walking around with bulging disc, and it's rarely the actual pain generator.

but in a nutshell.......skip the GHRP and get some biomechanical help

Brent Sallee
06-30-2011, 05:52 AM
The discs aren't totally stagnant......They can heal, it just takes a LONG time. like <300-500 days (of good behavior)

Stuff like this (http://www.sahlgrenska.gu.se/english/news_and_events/news/News_Detail/exercise-produces-positive-effects-on-the-intervertebral-discs.cid1029905) WFS, and Guy Voyer's research have shown positive improvements in disc height and stability with certain specific activities.

Secondly, almost everyone is walking around with bulging disc, and it's rarely the actual pain generator.

but in a nutshell.......skip the GHRP and get some biomechanical help

Considering that study was done in rats, whose discs are loaded very differently from humans (since they're quadriped and parallel to the ground and we're biped and perpendicular to the ground). For us, we rarely unload the disc unless we get parallel to the ground. In addition to that, discogenic pain isn't uncommon. Clearly it depends on the degree of herniation, activity levels, posture, etc. The disc essentially doesn't regenerate - I didn't say it didn't entirely, but lost disc height is hard to improve, even over a long time.

Victoria Stiles
12-01-2011, 02:45 AM
There are alternative methods that are usually more effective for getting to the source of the problem, and actually encouraging the disc to heal which leads to longer-term relief. chiropractic is usually very helpful, as well as massage therapy, acupuncture, axial decompression therapy, and cold laser therapy.

Michael Burke
12-02-2011, 12:33 PM
McKenzie stuff and good behavior for about three months got me past the pain from a hernaited l5-s1 w/ sciatica. I had the sciatic pain for about 6 months prior to taking a real 'break'. Putting my back in extension significantly and noticeably relieved the sciatic pain.

I'm not knowledgeable about disc regeneration or the science behind it that much...but pain from the injury can definitely get better and you can often get back to previous activities as long as you give yourself the time it takes to heal an injury like this without constantly screwing it back up again with work or recreational activities.

Andrew Dempsey
12-03-2011, 12:10 AM
See a doctor, get a referral for a spine specialist and see what they say. You might just need rest and then lighter weights.

I have no L5 disc left, it has been squeezed empty over the years. ROM is still there, but I can't squat or deadlift to 400+ or 700+ I used to. I keep to 135 max now, a weight at which my back will decompress by itself. If I go heavier, then it takes rest and physio to calm things down.

Running is a no no, cycling needs your bike to be fitted to a different posture or even a new bike. Rowing is not bad though? Slouching on the sofa in front of the tv can be impossible to get up from...

It does not end your life, it just forces you to do everything with good posture. EVERYTHING, So no slouching when you take a dump!

Being an Aussie, it means no footy (as in Aussie rules), no rugby especially as a forward... Wing if your lucky, but generally not. Nor cricket either, swinging for a six to the side and the rotation will do more damage. Golf too.