A heavily muscled monster but still functional at the same time?

Kurt Ronald Mueller · 05-30-2006, 04:14 PM

My goal is to get as muscled as possible but still be athletic and very functional. Let's say I follow Crossfit religously (with some ME work thrown in) and decide to eat 6 meals on the Zone with 5 blocks each, totalling 30 blocks. Would this be a good way to go about doing it?

I guess my philosophy is: if you want to be a monster, shouldn't you eat like one, and train like one?

Kurt

Nick Cummings · 05-30-2006, 04:51 PM

Kurt, that is almost exactly what I do, except I also add some fat blocks and somedays only eat 24 blocks total. Also, by Crossfit standards I train like a prepubescent monster. I think it is a decent idea for me because I am skinny. Are you skinny? This might not be an ideal way to approach the skinny problem but I like it and it seems to be working to some extent with no negatives so far. I figure it is better to pick something and ride it out to see where it goes then spend all day thinking of a perfect solution. If you find something better please let me know.

Kurt Ronald Mueller · 05-30-2006, 05:25 PM

Nick,
I come from the other end of the spectrum. I'm a former fat boy... it's easy for me to gain weight and harder (not impossible) for me to take it off.

Kurt

Nick Cummings · 05-30-2006, 05:53 PM

Oh, my body, behavior, or whatnot puts me exactly opposite you. As a FFB is your bodyfat under control? If so I recall Robb suggesting increasing your block prescription by 2 and seeing where that took you in two weeks time and modifying accordingly.

Jonathon Edward · 05-30-2006, 06:27 PM

Kurt,

IMHO, if your main goal is getting as big (muscle-wise) as possible, you'll have to accept that your fitness level (defined by CF standards) will be less that optimal. You can certainly be large and functional; however, you must understand that you're sacrificing performance to some extent. I've put on a good deal of muscle in fairly short period of time and have found that my limit-strength has went up while my strength-endurance and running times have worsened.

On the exercise front, I'd strongly encourage you to take a look at Anthony B's training log. The dude is a monster with killer performance to boot. Adding in two ME workouts per week in place of CF workouts will make a world of difference in your hypertrophy progress.

Considering the fact that it's easy for you to gain weight and difficult for you to lose it, I'd suggest starting at something more moderate than the 30 blocks. I'm all for eating big to get big, but big is a subjective term. What does your diet look like right now? How many calories are you taking in? How much protein? What's your current weight and body fat%? What weight/body fat level are you shooting for? Gotta figure out where you want to be before you can chart a map to get there.

Thomas Beasley · 05-30-2006, 08:04 PM

what does the abreviation "ME" stand for?

Steven Low · 05-30-2006, 09:12 PM

max effort

Larry Lindenman · 05-31-2006, 04:51 AM

Kurt, one body-structural goal at a time. If you need to lose more BF (as a FFB), I would concentrate on the WOD's and nutrition get to 5-6% and then work on muscle gain. Any EXCESSIVE weight gain, muscle or fat, will decrease your strength to weight ratio and VO2 Max, thereby decreasing fitness. Really examine why you want to gain massive amounts of muscle, then look at Greg A., Rob Wolf, Greg E., Matt G., (not to mention Annie, Nicole, Eve, Cill) all elite crossfiters. They look "normal" in t-shirt and jeans, but are ripped and fit as hell. No, in my opinion, gross over-musculature.

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05-30-2006, 04:14 PM	#1
Kurt Ronald Mueller Departed Profile: Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 77	My goal is to get as muscled as possible but still be athletic and very functional. Let's say I follow Crossfit religously (with some ME work thrown in) and decide to eat 6 meals on the Zone with 5 blocks each, totalling 30 blocks. Would this be a good way to go about doing it? I guess my philosophy is: if you want to be a monster, shouldn't you eat like one, and train like one? Kurt

05-30-2006, 04:51 PM	#2
Nick Cummings Departed Profile: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,023	Kurt, that is almost exactly what I do, except I also add some fat blocks and somedays only eat 24 blocks total. Also, by Crossfit standards I train like a prepubescent monster. I think it is a decent idea for me because I am skinny. Are you skinny? This might not be an ideal way to approach the skinny problem but I like it and it seems to be working to some extent with no negatives so far. I figure it is better to pick something and ride it out to see where it goes then spend all day thinking of a perfect solution. If you find something better please let me know.

05-30-2006, 05:25 PM	#3
Kurt Ronald Mueller Departed Profile: Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 77	Nick, I come from the other end of the spectrum. I'm a former fat boy... it's easy for me to gain weight and harder (not impossible) for me to take it off. Kurt

05-30-2006, 05:53 PM	#4
Nick Cummings Departed Profile: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,023	Oh, my body, behavior, or whatnot puts me exactly opposite you. As a FFB is your bodyfat under control? If so I recall Robb suggesting increasing your block prescription by 2 and seeing where that took you in two weeks time and modifying accordingly.

05-30-2006, 06:27 PM	#5
Jonathon Edward Member Profile: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 288	Kurt, IMHO, if your main goal is getting as big (muscle-wise) as possible, you'll have to accept that your fitness level (defined by CF standards) will be less that optimal. You can certainly be large and functional; however, you must understand that you're sacrificing performance to some extent. I've put on a good deal of muscle in fairly short period of time and have found that my limit-strength has went up while my strength-endurance and running times have worsened. On the exercise front, I'd strongly encourage you to take a look at Anthony B's training log. The dude is a monster with killer performance to boot. Adding in two ME workouts per week in place of CF workouts will make a world of difference in your hypertrophy progress. Considering the fact that it's easy for you to gain weight and difficult for you to lose it, I'd suggest starting at something more moderate than the 30 blocks. I'm all for eating big to get big, but big is a subjective term. What does your diet look like right now? How many calories are you taking in? How much protein? What's your current weight and body fat%? What weight/body fat level are you shooting for? Gotta figure out where you want to be before you can chart a map to get there.

05-30-2006, 08:04 PM	#6
Thomas Beasley Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 37	what does the abreviation "ME" stand for?

05-30-2006, 09:12 PM	#7
Steven Low Member Profile: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: silver spring maryland Posts: 12,220	max effort

05-31-2006, 04:51 AM	#8
Larry Lindenman Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,769	Kurt, one body-structural goal at a time. If you need to lose more BF (as a FFB), I would concentrate on the WOD's and nutrition get to 5-6% and then work on muscle gain. Any EXCESSIVE weight gain, muscle or fat, will decrease your strength to weight ratio and VO2 Max, thereby decreasing fitness. Really examine why you want to gain massive amounts of muscle, then look at Greg A., Rob Wolf, Greg E., Matt G., (not to mention Annie, Nicole, Eve, Cill) all elite crossfiters. They look "normal" in t-shirt and jeans, but are ripped and fit as hell. No, in my opinion, gross over-musculature.