Fish oil

Richard Boulet · 01-13-2005, 11:47 AM

HI everyone, can anybody tell me if Kirkland (COSTCO brand)fish oil caps can replace the dietary fat if one is using the zone principles , I take about 8 capsules a day with meals.THANK YOU.

01-13-2005, 01:37 PM

I think Dr. Sears specified that supplemental Oil should not be counted into the 30% of fat coming from the diet. May be wrong--Someone may confirm or disconfirm this--or provide a link.

01-29-2005, 04:30 AM

The only place i know where to get fish oil capsules is Holland and Barratt, which is a health store over here in Britain. Can anyone justify these? I have heard they are stronger than cod liver oil capsules.

Theron Mathis · 01-30-2005, 03:52 AM

When do you take your fish oil?

Throughout the day? All at one time? At night?

Currently, I take it along with other vitamins before bed.

Theron

Scott Kustes · 01-30-2005, 07:34 AM

I take mine in the morning right before breakfast (along with vitamins) and right before bed.

01-30-2005, 07:16 PM

I take 1-2 costco fish oil caps with every meal. So you are looking at 5 meals. About 30min before I hit the sack I take another 2 along with ZMA.

Jeremy Jones · 01-31-2005, 11:47 AM

4 costco capsules 3 times a day with a meal.

01-31-2005, 11:53 AM

I use Carlson's lemon flavored fish oil. Not quite so pungent when you burp it. 1 tsp in the AM, just before my protein shake.

John de la Garza · 02-01-2005, 11:52 AM

you get the same benefits from flax seeds

I grind mine in a coffee grinder

you may want to read about it at least

Larry Lindenman · 02-01-2005, 12:40 PM

Actually, that's not quite right John:

Dr. Lonnie Lowery:

"Fish oil fatty acids (EPA and DHA) are more potent biologically than the linolenic acid in flax and walnuts, for example.(19, 21) Still, linolenic acid appears to have effects of its own, without conversion to EPA and DHA.(3, 9, 10) For those interested in usual intake, alpha-linolenic acid from vegetable-oil products in the United States is approximately 1.2 grams daily and in Canada, approximately 2 grams daily.(8) Apparently the Canadians score more of this valuable omega-3 fatty acid due to greater canola intake.
1. Flax oil also can contain lignans which have anti-estrogenic properties. Although generally different from the isoflavones in soy, these lignans are phytoestrogens too, so it comes down to a personal choice regarding their use. Use of phytoestrogens for purely anti-estrogenic effects is still being studied. At least some recommendations suggest limiting flax intake to 2 Tbsp. per day because the hormonal and prostate effects remain unresolved. I’ve heard anecdotal reports, however, of lessened gynecomastia, but it no doubt depends on the dose and the endocrine state of the consumer.
I personally take 3-6 fish oil capsules (the standard 30% concentration of EPA and DHA) most evenings as well as the aforementioned fresh-ground flax seeds in my oats most mornings. Let’s not forget the very favorable overall fatty acid composition of flax (its fat is not just linoleate). But I don’t want to over-do things regarding specific fats. In fact, I don’t consume ground flaxseed year-round. I have great respect for fatty acids as nutraceuticals and remain wary of over-consuming any one food in general. I once had a bad experience with rancid flax oil (my abs were sore for days from all the hurling), which is one reason why I just opt for making my own fresh-ground "supplement." I use the coffee grinder trick I mentioned earlier to get the inherent linoleate, fiber and lignans, cheap.
During periods when you’re looking for anti-estrogenic effects, added fiber and other fatty acids in addition to your usual fish oil intake, you may want to investigate your local bulk seller for cheap, whole flax seeds by the pound. The whole seeds are far more resistant to rancidity than straight oil or pre-ground "flours." I’m fortunate to have a small bulk seller near me called "Mr Bulky’s." The flaxseeds I buy there save me money as well as future offerings to the porcelain gods. Of course, you can always just get your linoleate via walnuts if the whole flax issue sounds to risky.
19. Sanderson, P., et al. UK Food Standards Agency alpha-linolenic acid workshop report. Br J Nutr. 2002 Nov;88(5):573-9.
21. Su, H., et al. Bioequivalence of dietary alpha-linolenic and docosahexaenoic acids as sources of docosahexaenoate accretion in brain and associated organs of neonatal baboons. Pediatr Res. 1999; 45(1):87-93."

01-13-2005, 01:37 PM	#2
John Justin Syvrud Profile: Posts: n/a	I think Dr. Sears specified that supplemental Oil should not be counted into the 30% of fat coming from the diet. May be wrong--Someone may confirm or disconfirm this--or provide a link.
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01-29-2005, 04:30 AM	#3
Mark McLean Profile: Posts: n/a	The only place i know where to get fish oil capsules is Holland and Barratt, which is a health store over here in Britain. Can anyone justify these? I have heard they are stronger than cod liver oil capsules.
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01-30-2005, 07:16 PM	#6
Kawika Harbottle Profile: Posts: n/a	I take 1-2 costco fish oil caps with every meal. So you are looking at 5 meals. About 30min before I hit the sack I take another 2 along with ZMA.
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01-31-2005, 11:53 AM	#8
Donald Woodson Profile: Posts: n/a	I use Carlson's lemon flavored fish oil. Not quite so pungent when you burp it. 1 tsp in the AM, just before my protein shake.
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01-13-2005, 11:47 AM	#1
Richard Boulet Member Profile: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Red Deer Alberta Posts: 25	HI everyone, can anybody tell me if Kirkland (COSTCO brand)fish oil caps can replace the dietary fat if one is using the zone principles , I take about 8 capsules a day with meals.THANK YOU.

01-30-2005, 03:52 AM	#4
Theron Mathis Member Profile: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 88	When do you take your fish oil? Throughout the day? All at one time? At night? Currently, I take it along with other vitamins before bed. Theron

01-30-2005, 07:34 AM	#5
Scott Kustes Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 1,252	I take mine in the morning right before breakfast (along with vitamins) and right before bed.

01-31-2005, 11:47 AM	#7
Jeremy Jones Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Concord Ca Posts: 1,218	4 costco capsules 3 times a day with a meal.

02-01-2005, 11:52 AM	#9
John de la Garza Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Garden Grove ca Posts: 212	you get the same benefits from flax seeds I grind mine in a coffee grinder you may want to read about it at least

02-01-2005, 12:40 PM	#10
Larry Lindenman Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,769	Actually, that's not quite right John: Dr. Lonnie Lowery: "Fish oil fatty acids (EPA and DHA) are more potent biologically than the linolenic acid in flax and walnuts, for example.(19, 21) Still, linolenic acid appears to have effects of its own, without conversion to EPA and DHA.(3, 9, 10) For those interested in usual intake, alpha-linolenic acid from vegetable-oil products in the United States is approximately 1.2 grams daily and in Canada, approximately 2 grams daily.(8) Apparently the Canadians score more of this valuable omega-3 fatty acid due to greater canola intake. 1. Flax oil also can contain lignans which have anti-estrogenic properties. Although generally different from the isoflavones in soy, these lignans are phytoestrogens too, so it comes down to a personal choice regarding their use. Use of phytoestrogens for purely anti-estrogenic effects is still being studied. At least some recommendations suggest limiting flax intake to 2 Tbsp. per day because the hormonal and prostate effects remain unresolved. I’ve heard anecdotal reports, however, of lessened gynecomastia, but it no doubt depends on the dose and the endocrine state of the consumer. I personally take 3-6 fish oil capsules (the standard 30% concentration of EPA and DHA) most evenings as well as the aforementioned fresh-ground flax seeds in my oats most mornings. Let’s not forget the very favorable overall fatty acid composition of flax (its fat is not just linoleate). But I don’t want to over-do things regarding specific fats. In fact, I don’t consume ground flaxseed year-round. I have great respect for fatty acids as nutraceuticals and remain wary of over-consuming any one food in general. I once had a bad experience with rancid flax oil (my abs were sore for days from all the hurling), which is one reason why I just opt for making my own fresh-ground "supplement." I use the coffee grinder trick I mentioned earlier to get the inherent linoleate, fiber and lignans, cheap. During periods when you’re looking for anti-estrogenic effects, added fiber and other fatty acids in addition to your usual fish oil intake, you may want to investigate your local bulk seller for cheap, whole flax seeds by the pound. The whole seeds are far more resistant to rancidity than straight oil or pre-ground "flours." I’m fortunate to have a small bulk seller near me called "Mr Bulky’s." The flaxseeds I buy there save me money as well as future offerings to the porcelain gods. Of course, you can always just get your linoleate via walnuts if the whole flax issue sounds to risky. 19. Sanderson, P., et al. UK Food Standards Agency alpha-linolenic acid workshop report. Br J Nutr. 2002 Nov;88(5):573-9. 21. Su, H., et al. Bioequivalence of dietary alpha-linolenic and docosahexaenoic acids as sources of docosahexaenoate accretion in brain and associated organs of neonatal baboons. Pediatr Res. 1999; 45(1):87-93."