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Old 02-22-2012, 07:48 AM   #1
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gtoh vs. power snatch

what's the difference between "GTOH" (ground to overhead) and a power snatch, and why the diff terminology?
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:10 AM   #2
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Re: gtoh vs. power snatch

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what's the difference between "GTOH" (ground to overhead) and a power snatch, and why the diff terminology?
gtoh = get the weight over your head any way you want. Clean and perss/jerk, or how ever you want to do it.

Power snatch = wider grip than a clean, and all the way over your head without it being in the rack position.

That's a quickie, but I'm sure there will be more detailed answers.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:13 AM   #3
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Re: gtoh vs. power snatch

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gtoh = get the weight over your head any way you want. Clean and perss/jerk, or how ever you want to do it.

Power snatch = wider grip than a clean, and all the way over your head without it being in the rack position.

That's a quickie, but I'm sure there will be more detailed answers.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:13 AM   #4
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Re: gtoh vs. power snatch

I assume you know what a power snatch is already.

GTOH is sometimes prescribed in wods to allow you to get it from the ground to overhead anyway you like. Theres a few ways of getting ground to overhead. You could squat clean and press it, powerclean and jerk it, squat snatch it, powersnatch it, deadlift, hangpowerclean and push press it, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

This partially depends on the weight. If it's a heavy weight for you, you might be able to squat clean and jerk it but not have a chance in hell of powersnatching it. OR, you might start out power snatching it in the early rounds of the wod then due to fatigue/form-decline you use an 'easier' method for the latter rounds.

Purpose is to allow you freedom of choice
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:17 AM   #5
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Re: gtoh vs. power snatch

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I assume you know what a power snatch is already.

GTOH is sometimes prescribed in wods to allow you to get it from the ground to overhead anyway you like. Theres a few ways of getting ground to overhead. You could squat clean and press it, powerclean and jerk it, squat snatch it, powersnatch it, deadlift, hangpowerclean and push press it, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

This partially depends on the weight. If it's a heavy weight for you, you might be able to squat clean and jerk it but not have a chance in hell of powersnatching it. OR, you might start out power snatching it in the early rounds of the wod then due to fatigue/form-decline you use an 'easier' method for the latter rounds.

Purpose is to allow you freedom of choice
oh SNAP!

when I get stuck on my power snatches now, I'm just gonna erase "power snatch" from the strength schedule, scribble in "GTOH" and keep on truckin baby!
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:09 AM   #6
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Re: gtoh vs. power snatch

It also matters for judging purposes--if they're holding people to legit Oly competition standards, a good power snatch can't have a pressout on the barbell. Elbows have to be locked as soon at the weight is received overhead. If it was specified as a power snatch then a squat snatch would not be ok either.

Calling it "ground to overhead" eliminates the need to have strict Oly judging and also allows all the other methods of getting a barbell overhead that David already mentioned.

Like on last year's Open C&J workout, stronger people figured out pretty quickly that doing a squat clean to thruster was faster and more efficient than doing a clean and jerk, and it still fit the movement standards since they didn't specify that it had to be a distinct C&J.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:38 PM   #7
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Re: gtoh vs. power snatch

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It also matters for judging purposes--if they're holding people to legit Oly competition standards, a good power snatch can't have a pressout on the barbell. Elbows have to be locked as soon at the weight is received overhead. If it was specified as a power snatch then a squat snatch would not be ok either.

Calling it "ground to overhead" eliminates the need to have strict Oly judging and also allows all the other methods of getting a barbell overhead that David already mentioned.

Like on last year's Open C&J workout, stronger people figured out pretty quickly that doing a squat clean to thruster was faster and more efficient than doing a clean and jerk, and it still fit the movement standards since they didn't specify that it had to be a distinct C&J.
And if I remember correctly, during the 2010 games, camille started out doing power clean and push presses and then quickly moved to a sort of a clean grip power snatch.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:37 PM   #8
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Re: gtoh vs. power snatch

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Power snatch = wider grip than a clean, and all the way over your head without it being in the rack position.
Official rules say nothing about the grip width, if your build is really weird, nothing stops you from using a wider grip on the clean and a narrower one on the snatch.
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