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Old 08-01-2011, 07:08 PM   #21
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Re: Final games thoughts

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Anyone competing for the title of World's Fittest should be able to out-throw a Special Olympian. Speal & Khalipa...well...can't. If the softball throw would have kept them from the podium so be it.
Totally agree with that. Maybe what it is for me is that I just think a softball is a dumb way to test it. That said, I'm not sure what I'd nominate as a replacement. Maybe a shot put or a javelin. Perhaps even the log toss that the Rogue and Again Faster athletes did in Tahoe, though I recognize that those are different sorts of throw than a baseball/softball throw.

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As someone asked earlier, how is 1 inch really any different than 1 second on a for-time event, or 1lb on a lift, or 1 rep on an AMRAP workout? And with most high-placing guys throwing well over 200ft, what are the odds of it coming down to 1 inch between two different competitors? One in a thousand maybe?
I agree with all of that, plus the stuff that I clipped out. Still, it bugs me. I guess I just have to get past it. And, you're right, the odds of it ever really being an issue are really low.

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Old 08-01-2011, 07:33 PM   #23
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Why didn't they use a shot put or javelin? I have my suspicions, but why do you think?
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Old 08-01-2011, 09:15 PM   #24
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Why didn't they use a shot put or javelin? I have my suspicions, but why do you think?
Because those are established Track&Field events, which would allow comparisons with specialists in those events.

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Old 08-02-2011, 03:27 AM   #25
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Just my 2c.

1) For me the heat structure got boring to watch. You watch 6 people race in a workout (with no real commentary or a good display on screen to give an indication as to live progress/reps), they finish up then you watch another 6 do exactly the same thing. In most cases I turned it off unless there was a specific athlete in the heat I wanted to watch. Perhaps they need to either structure it so that more people can compete simultaneously, or add another layer to the qualification process to eliminate some of the field.

2) Is it time to add weight divisions to crossfit? I cant help but wonder how much more fierce the competition would be if there was say an under 85kg group and an over 85kg group. Or some other number that splits the field evenly and give both groups the same events.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:58 AM   #26
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Because those are established Track&Field events, which would allow comparisons with specialists in those events.

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The same could be said about other Crossfit movements. Rowing, C&J, Snatches, Powerlifting movements, etc.

I think HQ excluded shotputs/javelins because those who might not know how to throw it pose a danger to themselves and everyone else on the field (stray javelin, anyone?)
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:27 AM   #27
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The same could be said about other Crossfit movements. Rowing, C&J, Snatches, Powerlifting movements, etc.

I think HQ excluded shotputs/javelins because those who might not know how to throw it pose a danger to themselves and everyone else on the field (stray javelin, anyone?)
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:06 AM   #28
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The same could be said about other Crossfit movements. Rowing, C&J, Snatches, Powerlifting movements, etc.

I think HQ excluded shotputs/javelins because those who might not know how to throw it pose a danger to themselves and everyone else on the field (stray javelin, anyone?)
That is what I am thinking. Having people just up and throw a javelin would be tough.

Shotputs and Javelin takes real skill and a lot of practice. Clearly throwing a softball well takes skill, but I think it was assumed that 90%+ of the field had at least thrown a ball a few times in their lifetime.
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:26 AM   #29
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I can't believe noone mentioned those retarded watt bikes. That was by far the worst part of the games, it was like everything stopped and a lazy spin class started. If you're going to put people on bikes, put them on real bikes and make them bike through a course. People were joking that next year they'd be on Reebok Ellipticals.

I thought it was cheap the way they wiped out the scores for the team competition going into the last event, and then it was kinda boring to watch considering only one girl out of the 18 there could do dips, which was in the first workout, which means CFNE was the clear winner 3 minutes in (though they killed most of the rest of the workouts too).

Yeah, Miranda seemed at a loss when interviewing people.

I liked the big announcer dude, he was way better than Dave Castro, even if he wasn't perfect.

I liked how the team event finals was 6 classic girl wods. Similarly I liked how the men's final was like a filthy fifty remix. I don't know why people are giving it grief. Though nothing will ever compare to the finals Khalipa won where they had every event timed and staggered the final start based on that and whoever finished first was the overall winner. That was the most entertaining format by far and I hope they do that again some time.

Spealler pushing the sled was awesome.

Barber destroying the sled push was awesome, and allt he more surprising since he was dead last, by a mile, in the 6 minute version.

Spealler getting screwed by his size once again saddens me. I'd like to see him put on 10-20 lbs of muscle this year and finally win this thing next year.

It was an amazing surprise to see Annie S. not only competing but kicking ***. It was also pretty cool to see that the two most ripped girls were the two 35 y.o. mothers of 2 and 3 (the other being the awesome Angie Pye).

Overall the games were awesome, had a great time, even got to meet Coach when he crashed our box and at his prompting complained about the food choices, heh.
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These events might have been a good test of fitness, but they paled in comparison to the previous years competitions. Two minutes to hit a ME lift versus a long *** ladder where guys are having to scream to get themselves ready for the next lift?

The first event was a cool opener, rope/c&j was cool, the monkey bars were fun to watch, and the last event was a decent chipper, but if you want to test guys' skills, test them in a workout that is fun to watch. Those were very boring to watch.
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These events might have been a good test of fitness, but they paled in comparison to the previous years competitions. Two minutes to hit a ME lift versus a long *** ladder where guys are having to scream to get themselves ready for the next lift?

The first event was a cool opener, rope/c&j was cool, the monkey bars were fun to watch, and the last event was a decent chipper, but if you want to test guys' skills, test them in a workout that is fun to watch. Those were very boring to watch.
The only cool skills event was the handstand walk. I wouldn't really consider farmer's walks a skill either... cool event but, not a skill.

The stationary bike was the thing I hated the most about this Games. Biking does not prove anything that swimming and running cannot. Also, since when has CFHQ condoned the use of machines like bikes. Rowing is a little different and makes sense. Bikes.... what the H.

The Games were great this year, I think it will be the spark that gets the Games actually recognized as legitimate (maybe not for finding the Fittest Man in the World) but it was interesting enough to where people would watch them again.

Other than the biking and the lack of a really cool strength event, I really enjoyed the Games. Oh, and the MC.... ridiculous. Let's switch that guy out next year...

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