The Olympic Lifts

04-26-2006, 04:42 AM

I've been running and doing basic lifting for years, but these olympic lifts are completely new to me. Although there's lots of discussion on how to work your way up to HSPUs, I don't see near as much on how to master these lifts for guys who have never done them before. Anyone have any advice?

Don Stevenson · 04-26-2006, 05:23 AM

Do a search, there have been heaps of topics on O lifting. Also there were several journals on the clean, snatch progressions etc. A quick check of the FAQ should give you the info you need.

Do a search for posts by Dan John, Mike Burgener

Allen Yeh · 04-26-2006, 05:24 AM

Ben,

Take a look at this link At Crossfit DC we were lucky enough to have Dan John come in and give us a O-lift seminar. It is a good place to start.

http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/22/18615.html

Jason Billows · 04-26-2006, 06:03 AM

Get the CF Journals that talk about the lifts. The recent article on the scoop and pull was invaluable to me.

Practice, practice, practice and use light weight when you are starting until you get your form down.

I was forced to use almost no weight when I first started due to a back injury. I began using a broomstick, then weighted PVC pipe. I now feel that I have quite good form, but will continue to reevaluate as I increase in weight.

Take some videos of yourself and post them to the digital coaching section of the site for feedback.

Search for the Bergener warm up and make it part of your CF warm up.

Josh Everett · 04-26-2006, 06:11 AM

There is a teaching progression on my site that may be helpfull although i think that i just have the power versions of the lifts detailed. I need to update and include progressing to the full lifts.
http://www.athletics.ucr.edu/strengt...ing/tprog.html

Christian Lemburg · 04-26-2006, 08:16 AM

Get Jim Schmitz's video on the olympic lifts.

I am currently working with Jim Schmitz's manual and DVD "Olympic Style Weightlifting for the Beginner and Intermediate Weightlifter", ordered from http://www6.mailordercentral.com/iro...sp?number=1203 .
The quality of the information on the DVD is outstanding, very good coaching, almost feels like a series of clinics.

What I really like very much is the structured approach to the lifts - you have several "programs" (1-7, with 1-3 being the "learning the movements" programs, moving from easy movements to the harder stuff), and the movements are explained/shown along the programs by Jim. That way, you build up your skills and strength very systematically. Jim also explains a lot of details about lifting in general.

You can read another review of this tape at http://sfuk.tripod.com/reviews/ol_schmitzvid.html .

See also the discussion about oly lifting videos at http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/26/20232.html.

Cheers,

Christian

paul arestan · 04-26-2006, 03:27 PM

This website has videos for most lifts and good explainations
http://www.aceathlete.com/hatch/video.htm

04-26-2006, 05:31 PM

Really appreciate the info, guys. I know a lot of these questions have been asked before and I appreciate your patience.

So here's one more: while I'm learning the form for the O-lifts, which I expect to take me anywhere from 3 weeks to a couple momths, what should I sub when the WOD RX's cleans and snatches? My guess is Deadlifts and front squats.

Jay Cohen · 04-28-2006, 05:05 PM

Ben;

I just came back from my first O-lifting session with a local(25 minute drive)Olympic lifting club. Coach has been lifting/coaching for 25 plus years, lifted with me, we took turns. Started on front squats, moved to Overhead squats, some other basic moves, bar only, then 5, 10 Kg plates. May I suggest you seek out a local team/coach, take some basic intructions. Form is everything and really helps to have correction, other lifters doing it right. I'm sure you can search on line for O-clubs in the area. BTW, asked how much the dues are, he laughed, said the trains MWF, whether the team shows or not. Great guy.
My two cents.

Jay

Jesse Woody · 04-28-2006, 05:23 PM

Ben, more O-lift practice never hurts, so do the WOD with a broom-stick and focus on form. Consistency before intensity ;) Every once in a while, throw in another basic lift to get the met-con that is intended, but for the first while, learn the movements until they are second nature.

Good luck and have fun!

04-26-2006, 04:42 AM	#1
Ben Travers Profile: Posts: n/a	I've been running and doing basic lifting for years, but these olympic lifts are completely new to me. Although there's lots of discussion on how to work your way up to HSPUs, I don't see near as much on how to master these lifts for guys who have never done them before. Anyone have any advice?
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04-26-2006, 05:31 PM	#8
Ben Travers Profile: Posts: n/a	Really appreciate the info, guys. I know a lot of these questions have been asked before and I appreciate your patience. So here's one more: while I'm learning the form for the O-lifts, which I expect to take me anywhere from 3 weeks to a couple momths, what should I sub when the WOD RX's cleans and snatches? My guess is Deadlifts and front squats.
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04-26-2006, 05:23 AM	#2
Don Stevenson Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney NSW Posts: 1,038	Do a search, there have been heaps of topics on O lifting. Also there were several journals on the clean, snatch progressions etc. A quick check of the FAQ should give you the info you need. Do a search for posts by Dan John, Mike Burgener

04-26-2006, 05:24 AM	#3
Allen Yeh Member Profile: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: reston va Posts: 768	Ben, Take a look at this link At Crossfit DC we were lucky enough to have Dan John come in and give us a O-lift seminar. It is a good place to start. http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/22/18615.html

04-26-2006, 06:03 AM	#4
Jason Billows Member Profile: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 384	Get the CF Journals that talk about the lifts. The recent article on the scoop and pull was invaluable to me. Practice, practice, practice and use light weight when you are starting until you get your form down. I was forced to use almost no weight when I first started due to a back injury. I began using a broomstick, then weighted PVC pipe. I now feel that I have quite good form, but will continue to reevaluate as I increase in weight. Take some videos of yourself and post them to the digital coaching section of the site for feedback. Search for the Bergener warm up and make it part of your CF warm up.

04-26-2006, 06:11 AM	#5
Josh Everett Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Moreno Valley ca Posts: 158	There is a teaching progression on my site that may be helpfull although i think that i just have the power versions of the lifts detailed. I need to update and include progressing to the full lifts. http://www.athletics.ucr.edu/strengt...ing/tprog.html

04-26-2006, 08:16 AM	#6
Christian Lemburg Member Profile: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Aachen NRW Posts: 308	Get Jim Schmitz's video on the olympic lifts. I am currently working with Jim Schmitz's manual and DVD "Olympic Style Weightlifting for the Beginner and Intermediate Weightlifter", ordered from http://www6.mailordercentral.com/iro...sp?number=1203 . The quality of the information on the DVD is outstanding, very good coaching, almost feels like a series of clinics. What I really like very much is the structured approach to the lifts - you have several "programs" (1-7, with 1-3 being the "learning the movements" programs, moving from easy movements to the harder stuff), and the movements are explained/shown along the programs by Jim. That way, you build up your skills and strength very systematically. Jim also explains a lot of details about lifting in general. You can read another review of this tape at http://sfuk.tripod.com/reviews/ol_schmitzvid.html . See also the discussion about oly lifting videos at http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/26/20232.html. Cheers, Christian

04-26-2006, 03:27 PM	#7
paul arestan Departed Profile: Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 101	This website has videos for most lifts and good explainations http://www.aceathlete.com/hatch/video.htm

04-28-2006, 05:05 PM	#9
Jay Cohen Member Profile: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sharpsville PA Posts: 3,388	Ben; I just came back from my first O-lifting session with a local(25 minute drive)Olympic lifting club. Coach has been lifting/coaching for 25 plus years, lifted with me, we took turns. Started on front squats, moved to Overhead squats, some other basic moves, bar only, then 5, 10 Kg plates. May I suggest you seek out a local team/coach, take some basic intructions. Form is everything and really helps to have correction, other lifters doing it right. I'm sure you can search on line for O-clubs in the area. BTW, asked how much the dues are, he laughed, said the trains MWF, whether the team shows or not. Great guy. My two cents. Jay

04-28-2006, 05:23 PM	#10
Jesse Woody Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange Virginia Posts: 915	Ben, more O-lift practice never hurts, so do the WOD with a broom-stick and focus on form. Consistency before intensity ;) Every once in a while, throw in another basic lift to get the met-con that is intended, but for the first while, learn the movements until they are second nature. Good luck and have fun!