korean dips

[William Jackson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0mrC1c597c WFS
anyone know how to develop these? i didnt think they would be much harder than dips but i felt like i weigh 400lbs. maybe i was doing them wrong but they seemed impossible.

[Steven Low]

Hold the bar in your fingers and not on the palm (will stress wrists more though). Will give better leverage.

If your butt is big from squatting and such it may be more difficult.

[Jacob Cloud]

Neat exercise, will have to try this, even with my big butt. Seems like it's doable with a ledge or something, too, and shouldn't require special equipment.

[Andrew H. Meador]

If you like these but, like me, have some badonkadonk ("ham hocks", my friend calls them), then you could try palms-forward dips on the rings or simply try to recreate this movement on rings. Different, I know, but not all of us have skinny buts and conveniently-located p-bars...

[Andrew H. Meador]

Originally Posted by Andrew H. Meador

...not all of us have skinny buts...

Butts so skinny that they have only one "t"!

[Steven Low]

Heh, my butt is fairly wide for my waist, so yes I actually do have problems getting around the bar

RTO dips are better than these anyway so I'd do those instead

[Andrew H. Meador]

Originally Posted by Steven Low

RTO dips are better than these anyway so I'd do those instead

There is, however, something to be said for variety. Steven - Is there any particular reason why you think that RTO dips give you something that Korean dips can't? I'm finding good results from HSPU variations and ring dip variations (RTO, Bulgarian, and super-deep unweighted - I'll weight them next time I go to the gym).

[William Jackson]

RTO= Rings Turned Out?
would that be palms facing forward or more extreme like palms facing out along the same plane of the shoulder?
i realized i had attempted the korean dips with palms facing forward. i imagine this is harder than palms facing backward?

[Steven Low]

Originally Posted by Andrew H. Meador

There is, however, something to be said for variety. Steven - Is there any particular reason why you think that RTO dips give you something that Korean dips can't? I'm finding good results from HSPU variations and ring dip variations (RTO, Bulgarian, and super-deep unweighted - I'll weight them next time I go to the gym).

Basically, korean dips are a progression (and coach Sommer notes as such in his book). If you can do a straddle planche... why would you go back to doing tuck planches?

RTO dips are pretty much the pinnacle of dipping (besides weighted variations)... and will develop all other attributes of dips sufficiently doing these. Ultimately, you want to lean forward in your RTO dips.

Much like rings HSPUs will also develop floor and parallette HSPUs as well as corollary skills like shoulder stands, etc.

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William... it's palms facing parallel to ~45 degrees forward. In some skills you will get the palms facing all the way forward though. No farther than that.

I'd strive for 45 degrees forward in your RTO dips (as well as support holds). If you start training cross, maltese, planche, etc. on rings you will notice that you often go from 45 degrees to fully open when working the skills.

[Blair Robert Lowe]

To get the same feel for the korean dip, you probably want to turn them all the way forward. That means 180 degrees for palms toward you and 90 degrees from parallel. You will have to adjust the way more body orientates itself to do it this way as well.

Doing it this way trains the instability aspect. However the body form IS funky typically ( like in a korean dip where you arch your body behind the bar to counterbalance it ).