CrossFit Discussion Board  

Go Back   CrossFit Discussion Board > In Sickness and In Health > Injuries
CrossFit Home Forum Site Rules CrossFit FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Injuries Chronic & Acute

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-21-2008, 07:28 PM   #1
Ryan Whitenack
Member Ryan Whitenack is offline
 
Ryan Whitenack's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Littleton  Colorado
Posts: 99
Help: suffering great pain from Elbow/Triceps/tendon pain

I suffered a kind of funny, but very weird, and quite painful injury to my elbow the other day. I did the WOD
7rds
21 Shoulder press 75#
21 Back Extensions

I did the workout on Sat (10.18.08). I expected great muscle soreness, but have experienced none; just this pain in my lower triceps/elbow. I have not been working out a great deal over the last couple of months, but was somewhat active and have been CFing for 3 years now.

I felt fine for the rest of that day following the workout, but I woke up the next with great pain in my right arm, just above the elbow nearer the tricep and on the inside of the arm. The left arm hurt also, but the pain was not even close. I could just barely reach a 90degree bend in the right arm. (Here is where it gets weird) As I slept that night (second night) I felt the pain increasing in my left arm. When I got out of bed my right arm felt quite a bit better, but my left arm this time was in great pain. Same area, but this time on the outside of the arm. Weirder still, when I awoke today (3rd day) the pain was back in my right arm to even greater strength then it had been 2 days ago. Basically the pattern is that the pain switches arms everyday leaving behind a haunting discomfort or pain, meanwhile the other arm is incredibly painful.

It is hard if not impossible to shampoo, shave (scary indeed), drink, dress, and do day to day stuff. I have tried working out with low intensity and it only makes it worse--with most injuries I get the pain reduces as my muscles warm up. Pushups (I can usually get upwards of 50-70 in a single effort) were challenging from the beginning and I got to 3 before having to stop.

I have been icing frequently, which honestly seems to do little good. I just took a very hot shower and I actually increased the ROM in the heat of the water. Are there any suggestions as to what this may be? Any one had anything like this before, particularly with the switching of arms? I have used the search tool to the best of my ability and the best thing I found was about "Snapping Triceps Syndrome" but my elbow and triceps have not been "clicking" or "snapping".

If it helps, the best way to explain the pain is like when you get dead legged by a nice solid punch or kick to outside thigh.

Thanks for any help. (btw, yes I am seeing a doctor)
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2008, 01:39 AM   #2
Aileen Reid
Member Aileen Reid is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Perth  Western Australia
Posts: 485
Re: Help: suffering great pain from Elbow/Triceps/tendon pain

An idle thought - maybe its coming from your neck - given its switching sides.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2008, 08:32 AM   #3
David Meverden
Member David Meverden is offline
 
David Meverden's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Charleston  SC
Posts: 2,721
Re: Help: suffering great pain from Elbow/Triceps/tendon pain

I wonder if the switching arm thing could be due to rolling around in your sleep. Like, your right arm hurts, so while you sleep you roll onto your left side and put your left arm in a weird position. Next day the weird position leaves your left arm hurting and right arm better. Repeat back and forth over the days.

Just a wild *** guess, but it's what came to mind.
__________________
CERTIFICATIONS: CSCS, CrossFit LVL 1
SEMINARS: Ultimate Advantage, CFE, CF O-lifting, MovNat
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2008, 01:42 PM   #4
Scott Jones
Member Scott Jones is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rapid City  SD
Posts: 40
Re: Help: suffering great pain from Elbow/Triceps/tendon pain

This is very odd. I haven't seen anything like that before based on the info you gave.

Based on the info I am also wondering if it is coming from your neck. Any neck symptoms/soreness/stiffness? Any numbness/tingling down the arm/into the fingers?

Any time you have diffuse symptoms difficult to pinpoint you definitely need to get a specialist to work it through.

Ask your MD to see a physical therapist who is an Orthopedic Certified Specialist.

Good luck,
Scott
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2008, 02:37 PM   #5
Ryan Whitenack
Member Ryan Whitenack is offline
 
Ryan Whitenack's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Littleton  Colorado
Posts: 99
Re: Help: suffering great pain from Elbow/Triceps/tendon pain

Thanks guys. A friend of my GF mentioned the neck or upper back thing last night. I mentioned it to 2 doctors today; they noted their own shortcomings in that area. The same friend of my GF, whom works in Chiropracty, also said the switching sides may be due to sleeping positions. I think that could hold water, but to the best of my ability my sleeping positions have not changed. I'm either flat on stomach, or flat on back. Only thing that has changed there is arm position. But who knows what happens in the tosses of sleep. On that note; however, my sleep is suffering because of the discomfort. Makin' me crabby and short with people and situations.

The pattern did hold tolday, also. The left is worse than the right as far as flexibility and pain.

The doctor thought it is something to do with tendinitis, but he couldn't quite explain the crossing over of pain.

I've been referred to a physical therapist, rheumatist, and acupuncturist from today's doctors appointment.

Any other ideas?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2008, 02:40 PM   #6
Scott Jones
Member Scott Jones is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rapid City  SD
Posts: 40
Re: Help: suffering great pain from Elbow/Triceps/tendon pain

Do your research. Find out what PT clinics you can go to, and make sure you get a sports certified or orthopedic certified PT.

Don't let someone else make that decision for you.

Much as I hate to admit it, there are some lazy PTs out there who are not up on their practice.

Good luck.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2008, 02:51 PM   #7
Scott Jones
Member Scott Jones is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rapid City  SD
Posts: 40
Re: Help: suffering great pain from Elbow/Triceps/tendon pain

PS: if your PT throws hot pack/cold pack/stretching/rubber bands/ultrasound/electrical stimulation at you -- he/she is bluffing.

Specific structures are involved here, this shotgun approach to rehab means he/she doesn't know what to do (and is probably 10 years behind the practice curve.

Some of that, in some combination, is fine as long as a specific purpose is stated. But again, specific structures and a specific plan should be the expectation.

If your neck is involved, you should expect traction and some form of manual therapy (doesn't have to be manipulation, but it may be).
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2008, 07:43 PM   #8
Ryan Whitenack
Member Ryan Whitenack is offline
 
Ryan Whitenack's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Littleton  Colorado
Posts: 99
Re: Help: suffering great pain from Elbow/Triceps/tendon pain

Sorry to revive a dying thread, but I was wondering what it looks like when you [i]almost[i] get rhabdo. If you read the case I stated above after several doctors visits one of my healthcare professionals, with little to no knowledge of CF, mentioned that I could have suffered some level of rhabdo or something akin to what would be pre-rhabdo I guess.

It was just a passing comment and we did nothing with it, but now that I have done more thinking about it, and researching elsewhere I think I very well might have been Rhabdoey (rab-dough-ee).

I have yet to recover. My arms are uncomfortable but not painful. I have a hard time stabilizing 65 pounds overhead and having it feel secure (Prior to injury I could push jerk around 250#). I tried doing 3 sets of 15 push-ups today, struggling on each set, and only able to complete 12 reps on the last set (all things being equal, prior to this injury I could probably do 3 sets of 30-40 no problem). I struggled with 5 reps of 115#thruster (previously a "warm-up" weight, and the squat felt great). Getting up into a handstand feels like a really stupid idea.

How long can I expect this to go on for?
How long should I focus on recovery?
Is there anything a doctor or specialist could do at this time?

Thanks
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Treatment for Tendon/muscle pain Andrew Dossman Injuries 2 10-13-2008 02:38 PM
Left shoulder pain and Bilateral Achilles Tendon pain Gregory Norman Injuries 0 10-12-2008 10:57 PM
Achillies Tendon Pain larry twyford Injuries 2 05-24-2007 03:40 AM
Achlles Tendon Pain Randy Roper Injuries 1 08-28-2006 08:07 AM
Bicep Tendon Pain - Help Sean Guerrant Injuries 9 04-11-2006 12:01 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CrossFit is a registered trademark of CrossFit Inc.