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Old 09-01-2008, 08:04 PM   #21
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Re: Journal 3.0

Looks like a nice set up, we'll see tomorrow if I can get on it from work
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:29 PM   #22
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Re: Journal 3.0

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Daniel,

What's the difference between having the articles officially released once a week and simply checking in once a week for new articles in the chronology section?
None. But when you have an online course with open enrollment anytime, people tend to enrol only in small numbers. When you have a constantly
updated publication, people tend not to pro-actively go to the website unless they are podded.

Call it an artificial deadline. Or a phony publication date. It provides structure. Which some people need. Going from a monthly email publication to a constantly updated website is too big a conceptual leap for many people....at least in one fell swoop.

Re-read some of the comments here and elsewhere. Some people still think they have been ripped off because it's September 1 and they still haven't got the September issue. They missed the promise of more content.

To summarize, I'd suggest:
- posting new content once a week
- clearly labeling this content "new this week" and featuring it prominently
- including a one line link from www.crossfit.com to the new content
- sending out occasional promotional email newsletters that include links to articles, both old and new
- coming up with a low bandwidth solution (short of emailing complete PDFs)
- sending an RSS tutorial to all subscribers

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Old 09-02-2008, 12:12 AM   #23
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Re: Journal 3.0

I think you're spot on, Daniel.

I personally enjoyed getting all of the month's stuff in bulk, sorted, and made nice and easy for me. I really like the new system, but I think I'll miss the old deliverables.

Hopefully they can implement a: "Download all articles for this month." option for those who are having access issues. Obviously they will have to wait until the end of the month to do so, as articles are posted throughout the month now, rather than all at once.

Not everyone what RSS is, or how to use it, but it seems like a pretty good solution to let savvy folk with decent net access know when a new article is posted.

I don't like having to check the main page, the forums, crossfit endurance, and now the cfj site every day to look for updates, but change is always hard to swallow. I think this will be a good transition in the long run...
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:07 AM   #24
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Elliott:

Thanks for the thanks -- and your willingness to accept change. That is really the crux of the matter. My observations are based on my experience in launching and upgrading almost 100 websites for specialist magazines and online courses.

My suggestions are just a few tweaks to bridge the old and the new. Overall, I think CrossFit 3.0 is outstanding.

And change is on the way. Here's what Coach posted in the comments section of CJ:

"We learned a lot today. Much of what you've asked for is needed. Our development team is meeting in Scottsdale next week to hammer out some 3.X.Y details.


Packaging for print is coming. The print-then-read community is very, very, dear to our hearts. (Our designer, Ryan Lucas, and I are both print junkies and have long term dreams and plans for a glossy, oversized, coffee-table book quality print issue run to break even.) Reminders and feeds of various types are being discussed. RSS feeds need to be explained, and Brian and crew are planning articles explaining feeds. Before dawn this morning we saw the need for a link to the full article PDF just below the abstracts in addition to the one in the sidebar. If your first thought was "Why is the article so short?", the fault is ours."

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Old 09-02-2008, 08:17 AM   #25
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Re: Journal 3.0

Daniel,

Reliable high speed Internet access can be an issue. Here in Jakarta its ok, but out side it can be rather slow/intermittent. As CF is global in its audience, I hope the option will remain for those of us who are in (or choose to remain in), the 'stone age'.

With one pdf file, you connect to the web, hit download, go to bed and voila, its there the next day.

Having to log onto another site/portion of the main site and download separate pdf files is not as easy.

Hopefully, they can cater to us all.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:59 PM   #26
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no access from work due to the SSL used for login... probably a good thing in the grand scheme of things

Also, since SSL is only used for login, are any of the admins concerned about sidejacking?

Sorry for the tinfoil hat, security is part of my job
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:11 AM   #27
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i def love the new site - theres no doubt about that - i jus wish and hope that they will make a full publication available for download as well - i feel like i have nothing to read... maybe its jus this month that theyre doin it like this? i love the idea of the site and it looks great, jus hoping for the few things to worked out... musta been a lot of work to put this together!
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:30 AM   #28
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Re: Journal 3.0

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Not sure if I'm getting the 3.0 Journal. It looks nice, but the "new" content is nowhere to be found. I've looked in the chronolgical tab, the category tab, and new tab. A few days ago, a couple of segments to Robb Wolfe's nutrition lecture were posted, with the caption of CF Journal preview. But the full video is nowhere to be found in the 3.0 section. A little confused on this.......
Bart, The way I understand it is that we should be expecting to see new articles every few days now instead of once a week (from the "welcome pdf"). Im hoping that this means that by the end of this week there should be a few new articles posted.
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:44 PM   #29
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i def love the new site - i love the idea of the site and it looks great, jus hoping for the few things to worked out... musta been a lot of work to put this together!
You have no idea. Just generating and emailing individual log-in credentials to every user is not a trivial task. And I'm guessing there is a lot more going on under the hood than is apparent at the moment -- to accomodate added functionality in the future.

This is a huge project, folks. It's a high-end, sophisticated, custom solution, that can't have been cheap. Web companies charge 6 or 7 figures for something like this. (But I'm betting CrossFit did the work for a lot less by managing the whole thing themselves and maybe hiring a few programmers on contract.)

So we've gone from a clunker to a Ferrari. It will just take a few weeks to tune the engine and figure out how to drive it.
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Old 09-05-2008, 05:04 AM   #30
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A consequence, no doubt unintentional, is that links, no idea how many, are now broken where they least can afford to be broken. For example, today I wanted to brush up on the Crossfit Total. I looked it up in the FAQ, and it referred me to:

http://www.crossfit.com/journal/#1544

Click on the link, and I end up at the 3.0 main page. A follow-on search finally found the article, but that's because I knew what I was looking for. A newbie trying to use the FAQ already faces broken external links, but broken internal links signal a lack of interest on the part of the webmasters (which we know isn't what has in fact happened), and are real nuisances to the novice as well. Goodness knows I relied on the FAQ for a long time, and still refer to it.

My immediate solution would be to leave the old setup running alongside the 3.0 setup until the 3.0 setup is fully user tested and functioning.
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