Kipping pull ups

[Clinton Wheat]

alright guys i was wanting advice on how i can perform kipping pull ups. the problem is that i am 6'7" and my feet touch the ground at the pull up bar. i have found it very difficult to begin the swinging motion because my knees are bent with my feet up. any advice because pull ups kills my time events.

[Tim McFarland]

Not trying to be a smart-•••, but maybe put up a higher bar?

[Jordan Glasser]

Swinging/kipping pull-ups are extremely hard to master when your legs are bent. Here's what i recommend. You can still cheat with your body, without swinging through at the bottom. Not too sure if there is a name for it, I call it a dynamic pull-up. I often do this style of pull-up when I have little grip strenght left to do the swing. I've been trying to find video footage of what it looks likem but so far no luck. When I teach it I explain it as follows. If there where a hypothetical step around waist high in front of you, you want to place your feet on it, and then use your hips and thrust yourself up to the bar. You would then lower yourself down like a normal pull-up and repeat the same motion.
This is the best video i could find:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uryt3n9q1q4
watch annie, girl on the right, she doesnt swing through, she drops down. and on the way up she uses this virtual step and hip thrusts her way to the bar. Hope this helps.

Jordan

[Matthew Nielsen]

Frog kick

[Aaron Wilson]

I dont think your were being a smart *** . I think that is the answer. Find or make a higher chinup bar, use a branch of a tree if you have to. Once you have mastered them you can play around on lower chinup bars to see if you can still Kip, but learning kipping on a higher bar will help tremendously.

[Robert D. Frey]

let me preface - if it feels good do it!

And i guess it depends what your goals are (muscle growth versus power training) - but i have to say out of all of the awesome gut wrenching things we do, the kipping pull-up makes the least amount of sense from a physics point of view.

Dont do it, just do a regular pull-up: Prevent gravity and centrifugal force from letting you cheat on your power curve, and save your rotator cuff as well. my take is if you can do 50 kipping pull-ups and only 15 regular pull-ups, then you are cheating with a kip.

if you cant do regular pull-ups then the gym that has a weight assisted pull-up is the way to go. This cycling legs business to generate momentum . . . and then pushing away (!?!) to generate a centripetal/centrifugal component of gravity on the way back down uses very little of your own energy - not nearly as much as an eccentrically controlled deceleration using your very own lats and biceps! . . . it's beyond silly, but hey whatever - it gets your numbers up, tones to a degree, and facilitates aerobic adaptation like any repetitive motion.

so dont go to war with me, im just one lil speck out in the universe who is open for variety - ill do em for fun, but overall give me a standard pull-up any day.

[Tim McFarland]

Heresy! Stone the heretic!

(Message edited by tim_mcf on April 27, 2007)

[Brian Cornwell]

cheat on your power curve? power?

[Rafael Mattei]

look at Annie's Kip, its not so much of a swing but an up down (i believe it was called EL POLLO LOCO, on a video somewhere). I do this type of kip mostly until i bewgging to gas out and tehn the swing is more dominant.

[Connie Morreale]

robert...there is another speck out there that agrees with you. i think kippers look like fish flopping around on the sand.

but i must admit, i can only do 8 dead hangs and once i get to ten i'm gonna start kipping for grins. but i will always do my ten dead hangs first!
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