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Old 12-28-2013, 06:00 PM   #21
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Re: Elevation training masks

Techno-babble aside, I agree with the above.

The effects of breath-hold training on aerobic performance is something I'm going to explore in future, maybe you can be a lab rat for us all and have a crack at it sooner, Niles.
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Old 12-29-2013, 12:25 PM   #22
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Any practice or device that makes you feel out of breath will improve your cardiovascular workout. It all comes down to your blood oxygen content. Whether it happens because it's hard to breathe, or if there's less O2 in the air, you're still working over your body to get more used to a decreased blood oxygen content. Is it perfect? No. Is it better than NO adaptation training? Yup.
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:02 PM   #23
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Re: Elevation training masks

A Intercostal muscle band will help increase lung efficiently as well.

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Old 03-13-2014, 02:46 PM   #24
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Kiel, I'll read into it.
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:14 PM   #25
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Re: Elevation training masks

If those masks increased RBC then Lance Armstorng wouldn't be where he is. There's a reason they used EPO and not those masks.

My theory is that you can push your muscles harder and longer when they're adequately oxygenated. Why deprive them and shorten your training session?!

Also I'm a firefighter and we don't use those. The SCBA we use to fight fires are positive pressure open circuit systems. So it's actually easier to breathe in our masks tha room air.
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:08 PM   #26
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Techno-babble aside, I agree with the above.

The effects of breath-hold training on aerobic performance is something I'm going to explore in future, maybe you can be a lab rat for us all and have a crack at it sooner, Niles.
This is a huge training technique for mountaineers and free divers who operate in oxygen-depleted environments.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:26 PM   #27
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Having worked with numerous high level free divers, I have never once seen any of them using them. Why would they? They have unlimited air at the start of their dives, and no need to be able to breathe hard during a dive.

Time in a decompression chamber at lower oxygen levels, to actually stimulate rbc production, that they do
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Old 03-20-2014, 04:50 PM   #28
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Having worked with numerous high level free divers, I have never once seen any of them using them. Why would they? They have unlimited air at the start of their dives, and no need to be able to breathe hard during a dive.

Time in a decompression chamber at lower oxygen levels, to actually stimulate rbc production, that they do
Many do it to try and increase work capacity on a finite supply of air such as a single breath or in an environment with little air such as very high altitudes. Back in the day Gym Jones was huge on it. So that may sway you to or far away from the practice hahaha
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Old 03-20-2014, 07:32 PM   #29
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Re: Elevation training masks

I've known guys who have bought these and then they simply sell/shelve them after a week or two...

One guy used it for 3 months regularly and still shelved it...

Other than good pictures, none felt it was worth it
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