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Old 07-16-2009, 05:31 AM   #1
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Pain is just weaness leaving the body, right?

Is pain weakness leaving the body, or is it your body telling you you are damaging it? (no really, whats your opinion?)

From this day forward unless otherwise stated, Im running, on the blacktop, outside. The constant swatting of mosquitos only adds to the MetCon.

Sound cryptic? Sorry, Im post-PT at the moment.
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Old 07-16-2009, 05:44 AM   #2
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Re: Pain is just weaness leaving the body, right?

I think in the sense of one's mentality "weakness" could be seen as leaving the body. This weakness being lower threshold for pain tolerance when it comes to digging deep and pushing hard (i.e. "cardio pain"). Exposing yourself to these sensations allows you to evolve to tolerate the minor discomforts and the deeper, stronger sensations will cease to surprise you and slow you down.

Physical pain, on the other hand, is a sign of pushing your body's components to their mechanical limits. That pain is something I would listen to.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:45 AM   #3
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Re: Pain is just weaness leaving the body, right?

Actual pain is bad. Never push through that
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:34 PM   #4
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Re: Pain is just weaness leaving the body, right?

Not cardio pain. Not burning buns, or calves, or lungs.
I was referring to knee pain, grateing, sharp. Basically there was a scar tissue buildup, probably in the cartiledge bed from the tibial plateau fracture in January. It released with a sharp pain the next time I went running and was better.
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:48 PM   #5
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Re: Pain is just weaness leaving the body, right?

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I was referring to knee pain, grateing, sharp.....
There are at least two knee injuries (articular cartilage and meniscus) that are sometimes in the "it'll never heal and your athletic life is over" (slight hyperbole) category. Don't push through knee pain...ever. Imagine never being able to do a bodyweight squat, burpee, running, jumping, deadlift, thruster, clean, push-press, jerk, snatch, etc. ever. For that matter, you can throw climbing or descending stairs into that list.

I actually did this in March and my left knee is not looking good at the moment. I foolishly didn't realize the potential for PERMANENT injury in those areas. When cartilage dies, it's usually good and dead. At least that's my current understanding. I was doing double-unders and had a fairly minor pain in my left knee. It didn't feel too bad, so I figured it would go away as I warmed up more. It didn't. The next morning, I woke up and only had about half ROM in that leg. It swelled up and got better for about a month and then started getting worse. My orthopedic surgeon said that it takes months for the cartilage to die away, so that was expected. I should've stopped immediately, but that workout was sooooo important to me. Foolishness. Let that serve as an example of what not to do. I sound like one of those despair.com pics, LOL.

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Old 07-21-2009, 03:33 PM   #6
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Re: Pain is just weaness leaving the body, right?

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Not cardio pain. Not burning buns, or calves, or lungs.
I was referring to knee pain, grateing, sharp. Basically there was a scar tissue buildup, probably in the cartiledge bed from the tibial plateau fracture in January. It released with a sharp pain the next time I went running and was better.
Scar tissue breaking up pain is actually very good (unless there's clots also breaking up which can give you heart attacks or strokes). Pain associated with breakup of these is fine.

Otherwise, the stuff you described is generally very bad.
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Re: Pain is just weaness leaving the body, right?

I recognized this type of pain from physical therapy post-injury, and pushed through it. It was still there the next day, I could feel it coming to a peak and just before it made me stop, it released with a slight grate, and then the knee was more fluid than it has been in a long time.

When I had this injury, the orthopedic surgeon said there is nothing he can do, but tell me 20 years from now, when I ask why I have such bad arthritis in my knees, THIS is why. It will not regenerate cartiledge over the fractured cartiledge bed. =p

Right knee had artificial menial meniscus cartiledge placed in 1994, it feels awesome. Perhaps if I ever get an "offseason" I'll consider the new technologies for the same procedure on the left =)
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