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Old 05-20-2014, 01:31 PM   #501
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Re: 2014 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread

I was equally puzzled by why Sam pushed herself so hard on event 6. She was so far ahead of the rest of the pack, and did not need to keep up her blistering pace, as there is not much recovery time (1-2 hours?) between event 6 and 7.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:11 PM   #502
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I will say I'm surprised that the HS walk is getting some much negativity. It had no more weight on the out come then the other 6 events.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:53 PM   #503
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It had MUCH more weight. Briggs is evidence. Finishing in the 33rd percentile on ONE event cost her a guaranteed ticket to the Games. There is no margin for error.

Look at the numbers...

Event 1: each rep determined 4.67% of final score
Event 2: each rep determined 14% of final score
Event 3: each rep determined .172% of final score
Event 4: each rep determined .086% of final score
Event 5: each rope climb determined 1.4% of final score
Event 6: each rep determined .031% of final score
Event 7: each rep determined .194% of final score

The only event you can't come back from a no-rep is Event 2.
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:43 PM   #504
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It had MUCH more weight. Briggs is evidence. Finishing in the 33rd percentile on ONE event cost her a guaranteed ticket to the Games. There is no margin for error.

Look at the numbers...

Event 1: each rep determined 4.67% of final score
Event 2: each rep determined 14% of final score
Event 3: each rep determined .172% of final score
Event 4: each rep determined .086% of final score
Event 5: each rope climb determined 1.4% of final score
Event 6: each rep determined .031% of final score
Event 7: each rep determined .194% of final score

The only event you can't come back from a no-rep is Event 2.
Andy is right. It was the format and the way they chose to test the HS walk that is killing people. You have to go at least 120 feet to get a good score and another chance back down the floor. to me, 3 minute max meters would be a much better test. As many times as you want to kick up and walk
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:43 PM   #505
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It had MUCH more weight. Briggs is evidence. Finishing in the 33rd percentile on ONE event cost her a guaranteed ticket to the Games. There is no margin for error.

Look at the numbers...

Event 1: each rep determined 4.67% of final score
Event 2: each rep determined 14% of final score
Event 3: each rep determined .172% of final score
Event 4: each rep determined .086% of final score
Event 5: each rope climb determined 1.4% of final score
Event 6: each rep determined .031% of final score
Event 7: each rep determined .194% of final score

The only event you can't come back from a no-rep is Event 2.
Event 1: 14% of score
Event 2: 14% of score
Event 3: 14% of score
Event 4: 14% of score
Event 5: 14% of score
Event 6: 14% of score
Event 7: 14% of score

By your logic a 1rm C&J event shouldn't be included because it would have too much weight on the out come. Yet if that was one of the events and Briggs didn't poorly no one would say squat.
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:49 PM   #506
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Re: 2014 CrossFit Open, Regionals, and Games Thread

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Event 1: 14% of score
Event 2: 14% of score
Event 3: 14% of score
Event 4: 14% of score
Event 5: 14% of score
Event 6: 14% of score
Event 7: 14% of score

By your logic a 1rm C&J event shouldn't be included because it would have too much weight on the out come. Yet if that was one of the events and Briggs didn't poorly no one would say squat.
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:26 PM   #507
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Event 1: 14% of score
Event 2: 14% of score
Event 3: 14% of score
Event 4: 14% of score
Event 5: 14% of score
Event 6: 14% of score
Event 7: 14% of score

By your logic a 1rm C&J event shouldn't be included because it would have too much weight on the out come. Yet if that was one of the events and Briggs didn't poorly no one would say squat.
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:32 PM   #508
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Event 1: 14% of score
Event 2: 14% of score
Event 3: 14% of score
Event 4: 14% of score
Event 5: 14% of score
Event 6: 14% of score
Event 7: 14% of score

By your logic a 1rm C&J event shouldn't be included because it would have too much weight on the out come. Yet if that was one of the events and Briggs didn't poorly no one would say squat.
Did you only get one try at the 1rm clean and jerk?
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:39 PM   #509
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Did you only get one try at the 1rm clean and jerk?
Same as the games last year.
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:46 PM   #510
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Event 1: 14% of score
Event 2: 14% of score
Event 3: 14% of score
Event 4: 14% of score
Event 5: 14% of score
Event 6: 14% of score
Event 7: 14% of score

By your logic a 1rm C&J event shouldn't be included because it would have too much weight on the out come. Yet if that was one of the events and Briggs didn't poorly no one would say squat.
As much as you want to say that this is how the score is determined it is not, Andy is still "more right" if that is a thing. While its true each event is 1/7 of the total score, Andy went further into it breaking each events reps up to give a perspective of how heavily each event's reps were weighted. They didn't do a 1RM C&J so I'm not sure why you said that, I'm guessing you were referring to the weightlifting event style Hang Snatch event, which was included and had 3 attempts factored in.

I'm with Jason on this one.. 3 minutes for max distance regardless of how many attempts would have been better, or even saying you get 3 total attempts (to make the first 120ft) and either after you try 3 times or hit 120ft you have to use that attempt (assuming you make 120ft and head back). Either way, its not specifically the HS walk event itself that was so much of a problem, it was the way it was scored/ran. Even with the Hang Snatch event there was a built in room for error, Stacie Tovar is a great example of that. She was no repped, and then missed the 2nd attempt but still had a chance to make her 3rd lift and although it wasn't nearly what she wanted to hit it didn't put her in a hole so deep she couldn't dig her way out. With the HS Walk you literally got ONE try to get your best score.

To put that into perspective, what if you were at the games and the event was a 1RM Snatch/C&J/Thruster and you were told you get 1 try and if you don't make it you are done. Would you agree with that?

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Same as the games last year.
Are you referring to the ladder in which they had as many attempts as they wanted in the time limit (2 minimum, some athletes took 3)?
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