CrossFit Discussion Board  

Go Back   CrossFit Discussion Board > CrossFit Forum > Fitness
CrossFit Home Forum Site Rules CrossFit FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Fitness Theory and Practice. CrossFit's rationale & foundations. Who is fit? What is fitness?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-14-2014, 01:56 PM   #21
David Meverden
Member David Meverden is offline
 
David Meverden's Avatar
 
Profile:
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Charleston  SC
Posts: 2,801
Re: Deadlift stalled

Glad to hear you're making progress again, Bob!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Fowler View Post
The biggest improvement to my deadlifts came bizarrely from not doing them! I was pulling 230 singles, had done a triple at 210, but couldnt move on.
I then didnt hit deadlifts for 8 months, instead training with a bodybuilder and doing LOADS of direct hamstring work. My hams increased in strength ridiculously over this period. After 8 months, one evening I tried deadlifting out of curiosity. Driving through my hams, I went and pulled 4 sets of 3 at 210, something I couldnt do when I was actually training deadlifts. The biggest factor by far was feeling how much my hams engaged.
So now, I never neglect hams training!
I'm gonna assume you mean kilos.

I'll add a +1 for hamstring work, though. Most people I've had switch to a conjugate routine saw the biggest fastest gains in the deadlift (typically 30-40 lbs in a few months). I credit the hamstring isolation and GM varieties. Especially as high bar squats become more standard in CF I think many people's hams and glutes are falling behind.
__________________
CERTIFICATIONS: CSCS, CrossFit LVL 1
SEMINARS: Starting Strength, Ultimate Advantage, CFE, CF O-lifting, MovNat
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2014, 02:48 PM   #22
Bob Herald
Member Bob Herald is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Miami  FL
Posts: 353
Re: Deadlift stalled

Chris mason. Sorry I just saw this. I will film a vid.

I easily pulled 405 today for a single after not deadlifting for 2 weeks due to travel !!!!

What I believe helped immensely technically is , as suggested, I widened my stance to shoulder width and turned my toes out a bit and screwed my feet into the floor outward. I can really feel my glutes engage.

I also cut down my warm up sets to a single at each weight.

Also I've been doing a lot of zercher squats and barbell glute raises.

Thanks all for the help!
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2014, 09:58 AM   #23
Chris Mason
Banned Chris Mason is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Charlottesville  VA
Posts: 4,708
Re: Deadlift stalled

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Herald View Post
Chris mason. Sorry I just saw this. I will film a vid.

I easily pulled 405 today for a single after not deadlifting for 2 weeks due to travel !!!!

What I believe helped immensely technically is , as suggested, I widened my stance to shoulder width and turned my toes out a bit and screwed my feet into the floor outward. I can really feel my glutes engage.

I also cut down my warm up sets to a single at each weight.

Also I've been doing a lot of zercher squats and barbell glute raises.

Thanks all for the help!
That is a good job, but I think your pull could move up significantly from where you are at if your total routine was altered. That is why I was curious what all you are doing?
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2014, 01:10 PM   #24
mike vinson
Member mike vinson is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Memphis  TN
Posts: 197
Re: Deadlift stalled

i think someone a few post back was spot on by recommending a coan program. a few weeks of 10's a few of 8's and whole lot of 5's...i used his program and hit 633@198 and 650@220. if youre really wanting to increase a powerlift i dont know why you wouldnt use a powerlifting program? either way, good luck.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2014, 03:31 AM   #25
Bob Herald
Member Bob Herald is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Miami  FL
Posts: 353
Re: Deadlift stalled

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Mason View Post
That is a good job, but I think your pull could move up significantly from where you are at if your total routine was altered. That is why I was curious what all you are doing?
Chris, I weight train primarily for sport so I weight train 3 days a week and practice my sport 5 days a week (Brazilian jiu-jitsu / grappling). I did 5/3/1 for a year and a half with some success.. But frankly got tired of the spreadsheets. Now I follow a 5x5 a approach for my core lifts. Accessories I use higher volume.

I rotate my workouts between the below.

Press
Pull-ups weighted
Dips weighted

Squat
Glute bridge
RDLs or lunges

Bench press
Pull-ups
Dips

Deadlift
Front squat
Glute bridges



That's it. My numbers are moving up. I also cannot gain much weight as I need to stay under 220 lbs for competition.

Lemme know wha you think
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2014, 08:34 AM   #26
Chris Mason
Banned Chris Mason is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Charlottesville  VA
Posts: 4,708
Re: Deadlift stalled

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Herald View Post
Chris, I weight train primarily for sport so I weight train 3 days a week and practice my sport 5 days a week (Brazilian jiu-jitsu / grappling). I did 5/3/1 for a year and a half with some success.. But frankly got tired of the spreadsheets. Now I follow a 5x5 a approach for my core lifts. Accessories I use higher volume.

I rotate my workouts between the below.

Press
Pull-ups weighted
Dips weighted

Squat
Glute bridge
RDLs or lunges

Bench press
Pull-ups
Dips

Deadlift
Front squat
Glute bridges



That's it. My numbers are moving up. I also cannot gain much weight as I need to stay under 220 lbs for competition.

Lemme know wha you think
Ok, give me an example of your 5x5 deadlift routine (include all warm-ups please).

Chris
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2014, 08:49 AM   #27
Mark Fowler
Member Mark Fowler is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Swindon  England
Posts: 28
Re: Deadlift stalled

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Meverden View Post
I'm gonna assume you mean kilos.

I'll add a +1 for hamstring work, though. Most people I've had switch to a conjugate routine saw the biggest fastest gains in the deadlift (typically 30-40 lbs in a few months). I credit the hamstring isolation and GM varieties. Especially as high bar squats become more standard in CF I think many people's hams and glutes are falling behind.
Yes, Kilos!! I keep forgetting to convert to lbs when I post on here.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2014, 08:58 AM   #28
Adam Shreim
Member Adam Shreim is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: San Diego  CA
Posts: 437
Re: Deadlift stalled

The local gym I attend got some sleds in. Pulling a sled around my body weight, even for just 200m, has put some pretty good stress on my hamstrings. I am sure it isn't the same as pulling heavy weights or doing good mornings, but it does feel like it helps make them stronger.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2014, 03:09 AM   #29
Bob Herald
Member Bob Herald is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Miami  FL
Posts: 353
Re: Deadlift stalled

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Mason View Post
Ok, give me an example of your 5x5 deadlift routine (include all warm-ups please).

Chris
So usually when I do 5x5 for deads it'll go like this

135x5
225x5
275x5
Working sets
315x5
335x5
355x5
375x5
385x5


A lighter day will be
365 for 5 sets of 5 reps


Or sometimes I pyramid like this

135x5
185x2
225x2
275x2
315x1
365x1
405x1
365x3
315x5
275x5
225x5
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2014, 09:22 AM   #30
David Finney
Member David Finney is offline
 
Profile:
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Knoxville  TN
Posts: 53
Re: Deadlift stalled

If you've been stuck there a long time, then the issue could be in your head. Next time you do heavy deadlifts, use a bunch of random plates and dont' add up the weight. Keep going until you fail, then count the weight. I bet you set a new PR - I've seen it work for several people.

If you're telling yourself you're stuck, then you will be.
__________________
www.gearreportcards.com
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
stalled metabolism? Erik Knudsen Nutrition 11 07-21-2012 07:45 AM
Stalled Daniel Quinn Nutrition 8 03-08-2011 02:38 PM
stalled fat loss Rob Bridgford Nutrition 9 08-11-2010 08:42 AM
Bench stalled Tim McFarland Exercises 9 03-27-2007 12:29 PM
Stalled with handstands: any tips? Matthew Townsend Exercises 23 03-30-2006 05:19 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CrossFit is a registered trademark of CrossFit Inc.