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Old 06-29-2010, 07:49 PM   #1
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Client getting bigger / stronger

but she hates it. She is 5'6, I'd guess 130-140. She states her clothes don't fit anymore and she wants to be leaner. She does eat pretty well (90% good /10 % bad - pretty decent in my book) and doesn't drink too much. I told her that everyone is different and some people gain muscle mass and some people lean out - those who gain mass usually haven't lifted heavy wts before (her). Unfortunately we didn't test body fat before and now - but she does look more muscular. Her main problem is she doesn't fit in her jeans any more.

What advice would you give her to get leaner ? or would you tell her that the muscle mass is actually a very good thing (which is what I tell her).
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:07 PM   #2
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THere have been a few testimonials of women who got bigger than leaned out since they were severely undermuscled.

ALso, it's hard to buy close when you train. No one else has any muscles.
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:21 PM   #3
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Re: Client getting bigger / stronger

Point her to the Girl Power thread in Community.

Especially the pics and testimonials therein.

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Old 06-29-2010, 08:21 PM   #4
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Genetics can be a b*tch.

Many people who want to be huge, are very hard gainers, some who want to be slim, gain mass pretty easily.

I would tell her that she should appreciate what she's been given genetically, and that it's very hard to lose muscle mass in a healthy manner.
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:24 PM   #5
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Re: Client getting bigger / stronger

Eat less
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:13 PM   #6
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To quote the internetz:

"Pics or it never happened."
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:41 AM   #7
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If she's worried about what size jeans she wears, you're probably not going to change her mind. And, based on what you've described, you probably won't change her body either. Outside of the CrossFit, power lifting and Olympic lifting worlds, there are surprisingly few women who appreciate getting more muscular. I mean, I recognize that lots of women do NOT want my arms. Plenty of women don't even want my abs because, as Tracy Anderson puts it, they are "bulky."

Send her over to the Girl Power thread and we'll try to work our magic. But, when your clothes don't fit, it's a big deal. I lost 40 lbs, and I'm lean as hell. I've been squatting heavy for less than a month, and I have not one pair of jeans that fit me. Not one. It has nothing to do with weight gain or eating too much. And, can you guess how many non-lifting women look at me like I am insane when they hear me say, "Yes! I'm getting bigger thighs!" I've probably put 30 lbs on my squat so far. Really? How many women are going to trade their size 3 jeans for a bigger squat?

If I ruled the world, it would be different.

Depending on her personality, this may be helpful:
http://www.70sbig.com/?p=2023 (WFS, at least this post is)
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:05 AM   #8
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Re: Client getting bigger / stronger

This delicate situation is best handled by a woman's finesse.

However, at least all her shirts didn't turn into belly shirts when she started lifting. Mine did.

Since I had no idea how much bigger I was going to get, I went out and bought 5 packs of Fruit of the Loom shirts in bigger sizes and a few pairs of elastic shorts. That's pretty much my get-up everywhere I go.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:40 AM   #9
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Re: Client getting bigger / stronger

Unfortunately most women have been bombarded with the idea that being "muscular" is not feminine. Most women I know would much rather look "skinny" than strong. I think the foundation for a program like CF should be a persons desire to be strong, fit, and healthy. Not skinny.
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:06 AM   #10
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I think the foundation for a program like CF should be a persons desire to be strong, fit, and healthy. Not skinny.
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